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    Step inside

    - The restrooms in our college are disgusting. Every time we step inside / Every time we use them, we all feel like throwing up.

    - Are these sentences natural?

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    Re: Step inside

    In short, yes they are natural.

    To me, “Every time we step inside” makes me think the restrooms are very smelly and dirty – you can see or smell as soon as you walk in, while “Every time we use them” might just mean that parts of them are dirty. It is a pretty small difference though.

    Also, saying “we all feel” makes me thing that you go to the restrooms in a group, which may or may not be true. You can remove “all” to make a more general statement.

    Finally, I personally would use the term “toilets” instead of “restrooms” but I believe “restroom” is a widely understood term in English speaking countries.

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    Re: Step inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Munch View Post
    I personally would use the term “toilets” instead of “restrooms” but I believe “restroom” is a widely understood term in English speaking countries.
    In the US, "bathroom" or "restroom" would be considered more polite than "toilet."

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    Re: Step inside

    Quote Originally Posted by namloan View Post
    - The restrooms in our college are disgusting. Every time we step inside / Every time we use them, we all feel like throwing up.

    - Are these sentences natural?

    Thanks very much to Teachers and members!

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    Namloan,


    I agree with riquecohen.

    Here in the United States, we like to use less direct terms for

    "that place":

    restroom

    bathroom

    (some people joke) reading room

    And some people are so modest that they just ask:

    Where may I wash my hands?

    The word "toilet" usually refers to "that thing"

    one sits on.

    Thank you

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    Re: Step inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Munch View Post
    In short, yes they are natural.

    To me, “Every time we step inside” makes me think the restrooms are very smelly and dirty – you can see or smell as soon as you walk in, while “Every time we use them” might just mean that parts of them are dirty. It is a pretty small difference though.

    Also, saying “we all feel” makes me thing that you go to the restrooms in a group, which may or may not be true. You can remove “all” to make a more general statement.

    Finally, I personally would use the term “toilets” instead of “restrooms” but I believe “restroom” is a widely understood term in English speaking countries.
    I agree, I would use the term "toilets" as well. I could accept "bathroom", just, but "restroom" seems a ridiculous term to me.

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    Re: Step inside

    In the US, if you used "toilets" we would assume you meant the fixture one makes deposits into (if I may be so indelicate).

    I wouldn't assume there was anything wrong with the sinks, the floor, the walls, etc. Just those specific fixtures.

    It would also make "every time we step inside" sound ridiculous to an American, because we would picture you with your foot in the bowl.

    So know your audience - if you're talking to Americans, use "bathrooms," not "toilets."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Step inside

    Here to agree with all the other USAns - "toilet" is usually only used when referring to the actual commode, and then only by plumbers or folks having plumbing problems. Call us repressed in the terminology of bodily elimination, but that's just the way we Americans are. Writing "every time we stepped inside the toilets" is certainly grammatically correct, but Americans would giggle because it sounds as if the writer is actually placing his foot into the bowl of the commode.

    (I must admit, every time I've visited the UK and heard someone say "I'm going to the toilet" I momentarily cringed inside because it sounded crude to my American ears. When a person excuses himself to go to the men's room or powder room or the rest room, your mind's eye automatically conjures up an innocuous picture of the person going there simply to fix their lipstick or wash their hands or maybe sneak a cigarette. You and I and the rest of the world know that they are going there to relieve themselves, but some of us just don't want to have to actually think about it.)
    Last edited by Ouisch; 15-Nov-2010 at 20:53.

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    Re: Step inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouisch View Post
    Here to agree with all the other USAns - "toilet" is usually only used when referring to the actual commode, and then only by plumbers or folks having plumbing problems. Call us repressed in the terminology of bodily elimination, but that's just the way we Americans are. Writing "every time we stepped inside the toilets" is certainly grammatically correct, but Americans would giggle because it sounds as if the writer is actually placing his foot into the bowl of the commode.
    In the USA, do you have signs that say "Rest Room"? In the UK, Ireland and India the signs always say "Toilet(s)", in Germany "Toiletten" and in France "Toilettes".

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    Re: Step inside

    You bet. The sign in the restaurant over the hallway leading to "those rooms" will say "Restrooms." If you needed to ask an employee for directions, we ask "Where are the restrooms, please?" Or "Could you tell me where the ladies' room is, please?"

    Then the sign on the actual door will say Men/Women, Gentlemen/Ladies, possible Buoys/Gulls in a seafood restaurant, or other cute names that I currently can't think of.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Step inside

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    In the USA, do you have signs that say "Rest Room"? In the UK, Ireland and India the signs always say "Toilet(s)", in Germany "Toiletten" and in France "Toilettes".
    Yes, in the US "restroom" is the most polite, and "bathroom" is perfectly fine. Our signs use these words. "Toilet" is never used to refer to the room itself, only to the porcelain thing you do your business in!

    I would only use "toilet" if I wanted to be very specific about which area is dirty. Even then, I wouldn't use it in polite company. Perhaps if I were complaining to the manager, speaking to a plumber, etc.

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