Student or Learner
I am a junior high school student in Osaka, Japan.
My English teacher told us to learn several sentences last week.
But I feel something is wrong with two of them.
But I don't know how to correct them.
The two sentences are like this.
1. It is liquid cleaning hair. (shampoo)
2. The teachers who stand there are our teachers.
(I think the latter may be correct but sounds wordy.)
I asked her, the teacher, about this. But she said there are no problem with them.
How do these sentences sound to naitive speakers?
Are they sound natural?
Thank you very much for your help in advance.
Yes, you are correct. As Riquecohen said, they do not sound
natural to native speakers.
(1) Maybe your teacher meant:
It is hair-cleaning liquid.
I think that it is grammatically correct to express the idea of shampoo
that way, but no one would speak that way.
(2) Maybe we could change No. 2 to:
The teachers standing there are ours.
I think the second sentence is much less awkward than the first, isn't it? I think I can imagine someone saying that in some very specific situation. I can't imagine anyone uttering the first one.
If you mean that no one would ever say that it's liquid cleaning hair, you are absolutely right. Hair doesn't do much cleaning -- mostly it does a lot of clogging.
Even calling it liquid hair-cleaner is awkward. We refer to washing our hair, not cleaning it.
Shampoo is the liquid soap used to wash hair.
As for the second, I could possibly imagine it as an answer to the question "Which ones are your teachers?" but I would find "Our teachers are the ones standing over there" a more natural response.
EDITED to fix an OMG-embarrassing typo
Last edited by Barb_D; 23-Nov-2010 at 03:35.
I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.
Well, I'd not use teachers-teachers either but is there anyone who thinks that there may be some instances where the sentence may sound natural? For instance, if you are very proud that your teachers are ones of the best teachers who you get to learn from, don't you say; The teachers who stand there are my teachers with an emphasis on the word "my" ?
Thanks for your replies in advance.
However, for all normal situations, it is not unreasonable to say that shuei's sentence is not acceptable English. Parser's final suggestion is much more natural and likely.