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    #1

    wish had been or would have been

    "I wish the eagle had been chosen as the emblem of our class."

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    "I wish the eagle would have been chosen as the emblem of our class."

    Is there a difference between these two sentences?

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    #2

    Re: wish had been or would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    "I wish the eagle had been chosen as the emblem of our class."

    OR

    "I wish the eagle would have been chosen as the emblem of our class."

    Is there a difference between these two sentences?
    Yes. The second is not an acceptable utterance in BrE.

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    #3

    Re: wish had been or would have been

    The first one is fine, as fivejedjon said.
    But still:
    The second is not an acceptable utterance in BrE
    Does the second sentence make sense in AmE/AusE ? As far as I' know, it doesn't.

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    Re: wish had been or would have been

    I think it's one of those things that people SAY because they aren't really paying attention to where their sentence is going, if you know what I mean, but it doesn't stand up to logical or grammatical scrutiny.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: wish had been or would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I think it's one of those things that people SAY because they aren't really paying attention to where their sentence is going, if you know what I mean, but it doesn't stand up to logical or grammatical scrutiny.
    So it's used in informal speech or writing. I would not wan to use it formally?

    Is it because people mix up conditionals with the Past Perfect Subjunctive like in "I wish you could have been with us at a party."?

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    #6

    Re: wish had been or would have been

    I would avoid it in writing, even informally, and I wouldn't deliberately say it in speech.

    When you're talking, you don't plan your sentences and you often end up saying things at the end of your sentences that you didn't set up correctly in the beginning of your sentences.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: wish had been or would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I would avoid it in writing, even informally, and I wouldn't deliberately say it in speech.

    When you're talking, you don't plan your sentences and you often end up saying things at the end of your sentences that you didn't set up correctly in the beginning of your sentences.
    Thanks a lot. You've been a lot of help

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