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    Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Can the Modal " should " be used in a subjunctive mood in a Negative sentence ?

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    Should you not come, I will give the book to somebody else.
    Last edited by PENDSE; 02-Dec-2010 at 16:54. Reason: correction

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Quote Originally Posted by PENDSE View Post
    Can the Modal " should " be used in a subjunctive mood in a Negative sentence ?

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    Should you not come, I will give the book to somebody else.
    Yes, that's a correct sentence.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    I agree that this is an acceptable sentence.

    In answer to your question about should: should is not, IMO, 'in a subjunctive mood'.

    If this sentence were to be translated into many other languages, the first clause might well involve a subjunctive mood. In English, however, we frequently use modals instead. The modals themselves are not subjunctive.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Quote Originally Posted by PENDSE View Post
    Can the Modal " should " be used in a subjunctive mood in a Negative sentence ?

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    Should you not come, I will give the book to somebody else.
    Correct. '(S)hould come' is a putative subjunctive form.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    Correct. '(S)hould come' is a putative subjunctive form.
    But, as has so frequently pointed out in various threads on this forum, most writers do not consider should to be a subjunctive form.

    Putative, by the way means thought to be, supposed.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

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    But, as has so frequently pointed out in various threads on this forum, most writers do not consider should to be a subjunctive form.

    Putative, by the way means thought to be, supposed.
    But I do. And this is my opinion and not that of most writers'. Please do not come again with this 'most writers' story. I am not interested in your statistics.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Quote Originally Posted by PENDSE View Post
    Can the Modal " should " be used in a subjunctive mood in a Negative sentence ?

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    Should you not come, I will give the book to somebody else.
    As you will have seen, it is disputed whether or not "Should you not come..." can be considered to be in the subjunctive mood. However, your sentence is correct.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

    Why don't both arguing parties give their definition of "subjunctive form"? It will help us to better understand what they are arguing about. Probably each of them attributes different content to this term, that's why they can't agree. They may both be right but are looking at this phenomenon from different perspectives.
    Last edited by Pokemon; 02-Dec-2010 at 21:58.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

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    Why don't both arguing parties give their definition of "subjunctive form"? It will help us to decide whose position is right.
    That's surely a question for the Linguistics forum, not Ask a Teacher. Here people normally want a straightforward answer to a question, not a discussion on abstract points of theory.

    In this thread, Bhaisahab provided the important information that PENDSE needed. End of thread.

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    Re: Subjunctive Mood : the Modal - should

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    But I do. And this is my opinion and not that of most writers'. Please do not come again with this 'most writers' story. I am not interested in your statistics.
    Others may be.

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