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The election of Republicans in great numbers in the recent election was a repudiation of the Democrats behavior.
So the Republican ideas did "win out" in the recent election.
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definition of come from Oxford Dictionaries Onlinecome
when a specified time is reached or event happens:
I don‘t think that they’ll be far away from honours come the new season
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...ome_54#come_57come - definition
at a particular time in the future or when a particular event happens
Come summer, all the building work should be finished.
我等你 I (will) wait for you.
the reason is that we have a relatively loose grammatical system, and the form of words (i mean of all words: nouns, verbs, you name it) NEVER change at all, so if we change the order, the meaning of a sentence may change accordingly.
我爱她 i love her
她爱我 she loves me
we also use inverted sentences, more like an "it is ... that" structure in english.
你才是我最爱的 it's you who i love the most.
the passive voice in chinese is pretty much the same as in english, except that we put "by sb." inbetween.
A被B打了. A was by B beaten.
Also, pay attention to "了".
When without a time reference, in most cases, it indicates the past tense or the past participle.
我吃了个苹果. i ate/have eaten an apple.
But, when used WITH a time reference, the tense is restricted to the time, and 了 almost means nothing at all.
昨天,我吃了个苹果 - yesterday, i ate an apple.
我已经吃了个苹果 - i have eaten an apple.
我要去吃个苹果了 - i'm gonna go eat an apple.
我正在做作业了 - (context: mom asks a kid if he's still playing) - I am doing my homework ALREADY.
他在车祸发生之前已经预感到了. - He had anticipated the car accident before it really happened.
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Philo: Some reference works even go so far as to classify it as a preposition but there is far from universal agreement on this.
5jj: Good. I tried to find some, but couldn't. Could you tell me the names of one or two, please?
(Far be it from me to direct people to sites offering, in my view, incorrect information, but) see Corum's earlier post.
I need help here: I cannot interpret 'come' as a prepo. What kind of prepo is it?
I mean, I find the idea interesting, but its ramifications will lead to problems:
Arrive London 2am.
The same argument would make prepos of the verbs here.
Also, if it were a prepo, you could use it in 'phrasal' type verbs: 'go in', 'put up', 'see through'. Can you find any examples of such use? 'go come'? Maybe: 'I will come', but no, that won't work.
We know that:
- two dictionaries (or is it three?) tell us that 'come' as a preposition is archaic in form,
- that prepositions take nouns as their objects, and furthermore
- that nouns occur in three positions syntactically: subject, object of a verb, and object of a preposition:
- object of a verb
- object of a preposition
Option 1. is out given word-order constraints. Option 2. and 3 are possible but at this stage yet to be determined.
If 2. (the object of a verb), then expect an implied subject; i.e., archaic come (ye) March; Cf. mark (ye) my words. But would that be too much of a stretch?
If 3. (the object of a preposition), then expect 'come' to gain its category via its position relative to the noun 'March' as we are constrained by the grammar to define it in any other way.