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    2nd runner-up.

    In a contest, the winner after the champion, is the runner-up. What about the winner in third position, is he or she the 2nd runner-up?

    Thanks in advance.

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    #2

    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    I'd use third- second runner-up suggests to me that two people came equal in second position.

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    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    Thanks, Tdol.

    The winner is the champion.
    The second position goes to the second runner-up.
    The third position goes the the third runner-up.

    Am I correct to deduce that your answer to my question is as above?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Tan Elaine; 09-Dec-2010 at 06:20.

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    #4

    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    No.

    The runner-up is in second position.

    I'd never use 'second runner-up', except as Tdol said.

    Rover

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    #5

    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    In a contest, the winner after the champion, is the first runner-up. What about the winner in third position, is he or she the 2nd runner-up?

    Thanks in advance.
    You are correct. This is frequently used in AmE, especially in beauty contests. Please note that there is only one winner. We can also rank them as winner, second place, third place, etc.

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    #6

    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    I have never heard "second runner up" used outside of beauty contests either, by the way.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by riquecohen View Post
    You are correct. This is frequently used in AmE, especially in beauty contests. Please note that there is only one winner. We can also rank them as winner, second place, third place, etc.
    Thanks, Riquecohen.

    So the first place goes to the winner or champion.
    The second place, the first runner-up, and
    The third place, the second runner up.

    Is the above the meaning of your reply?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    That's it.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Thanks, Riquecohen.

    So the first place goes to the winner or champion.
    The second place, the first runner-up, and
    The third place, the second runner up.

    Is the above the meaning of your reply?

    Thanks in advance.
    Not to me:

    The first place go to the winner/champion
    The second place goes to the runner-up (no use off first)
    For the next place, I would just say that xxxx came third (no use of the word runner-up)

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    Re: 2nd runner-up.

    But then, you didn't grow up watching the Miss America pageant, did you? (Something I'm actually rather glad to assume.) It's the only context I've ever seen it used.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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