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    Is is correct to say this?

    Hi,

    I have a question about a sentence. Is it correct if I shorten this sentence

    " She is the one who can help me" to "She is the one can help me"?. Many thanks.

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    "He's the man can do the job."

    One hears utterances such as yours and the one above so often that I would hesitate to label them as 'incorrect'. However, I would recommend that you retain the 'who' for formal and examination writing.

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    #3

    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    so, can i conclude that it is actually grammatically correct?

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by kirei View Post
    So, can I conclude that it is actually grammatically correct?
    Not strictly grammatical, but often used.

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by kirei View Post
    Hi,

    I have a question about a sentence. Is it correct if I shorten this sentence

    " She is the one who can help me" to "She is the one can help me"?. Many thanks.

    !!!!! NOT A TEACHER !!!!!


    Kirei,


    I thought that you would like to know what Professor George

    O. Curme in his scholarly two-volume A Grammar of the English

    Language says.

    Professor Curme says that many (many!!!) years ago, the relative

    pronoun was often left out. He gives examples:

    I have a neece [niece] is a merchant[']s wife. (written in the year

    1600)

    I bring him news will raise his drooping spirits. (1678)

    The professor (who wrote his magnificent book in the 1930's)

    said that this kind of sentence was still common in Irish English,

    which often "preserves older English idiom [way of speaking]."

    His delightful examples:

    It's the like of that talk you'd hear from a man would be losing his

    mind.

    There's no investment in the world would give you a return like that.


    Thank you & have a nice day

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    That would sound very odd to me. I wonder if it's more common in BrE to omit the "who"?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by kirei View Post
    Hi,

    I have a question about a sentence. Is it correct if I shorten this sentence

    " She is the one who can help me" to "She is the one can help me"?. Many thanks.
    No, it's odd to this American ear. You can shorten it further, though, to "She can help me."

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    That would sound very odd to me. I wonder if it's more common in BrE to omit the "who"?
    That is interesting, because I had believed, incorrectly it seems, that I heard it more from American than from British speakers.

    I would not say that it is particularly common in BrE, though I suspect some of us say it more than we think. I do not think educated people would write it.

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson_F View Post
    That is interesting, because I had believed, incorrectly it seems, that I heard it more from American than from British speakers.

    I would not say that it is particularly common in BrE, though I suspect some of us say it more than we think. I do not think educated people would write it.
    I've certainly heard it often enough in BrE but, as The Parser mentioned, it is more common in Irish English. I lived in Ireland as recently as 2002 and it was still common then.

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    Re: Is is correct to say this?

    Ok,I think I should conclude that it is grammatically incorrect, so that would be better not to use it. Thanks for everyone!!

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