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    #1

    Let's go to a/the restaurant

    Do you ever say, "Let's go to the restaurant that newly opened in town," to a person who does not know that the restaurant newly opened.

    If yes, is that because "the restaurant" is restricted by the succeeding relative clause (i.e., "that newly opened)?

    Or do you say, "Let's go to a restaurant that newly opened in town."?

    Similarly, do you say, "Replace the applet with a new one downloaded from the manufacturer's site" or "Replace.... the new one..."?

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    Re: Let's go to a/the restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappy View Post
    Do you ever say, "Let's go to the restaurant that newly opened in town," to a person who does not know that the restaurant newly opened.

    If yes, is that because "the restaurant" is restricted by the succeeding relative clause (i.e., "that newly opened)?

    Or do you say, "Let's go to a restaurant that newly opened in town."?

    Similarly, do you say, "Replace the applet with a new one downloaded from the manufacturer's site" or "Replace.... the new one..."?
    "The" is used when there is a SPECIFIC restaurant or applet that is already known to exist. "A" is used when you do not know of a specific one, but you would like to look for one.

    "Let's go to the newly opened restaurant" = My friend told me about this new place, let's go to it.
    "Let's go to a newly opened restaurant" = I don't know if there is one, but I just want to try something new!

    "a new one downloaded..." = any applet
    "the new one downloaded" = I have already showed you which applet I am talking about.

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    Re: Let's go to a/the restaurant

    Quote Originally Posted by acslater017 View Post
    "the new one downloaded" = I have already showed you which applet I am talking about.
    Is "showed" the past participle for "to show" in American English? This is a genuine question, I don't know. In BrE it's "shown".

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    #4

    Re: Let's go to a/the restaurant

    Apparently, according to Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online, "showed" is an alternate form of the participle.

    I'm a "shown" user, myself.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Let's go to a/the restaurant

    I am, myself, a "shown" user as well.

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