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    "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Hi,
    Is there any difference between the two forms of usage?

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    When you say 'Sth' do you mean 'South'.

    I've never heard the second variation but from a purely practical point of view there is no difference. You are either looking towards the south or the south is looking (or facing) you. In either case the relationship between you and south is the same.

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    #3

    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    sth

    written abbreviation for something

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    #4

    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Often not, but if you face something, it can mean that you are taking on the challenge rather than us being confronted with it, a meaning I don't see in the passive.

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Eh! I am a native English speaker and been resident in England for some six decades and I can honestly say I have never ever seen 'something' abbreviated as you describe.

    To me it us unintelligible and smacks of 'text speak' which is a no no in this forum.

    If people want to ask questions in this forum they should at least have the courtesy to attempt to write in clear unabbreviated English for the very reason that this has cropped up.

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard1 View Post
    Eh! I am a native English speaker and been resident in England for some six decades and I can honestly say I have never ever seen 'something' abbreviated as you describe.

    To me it us unintelligible and smacks of 'text speak' which is a no no in this forum.

    If people want to ask questions in this forum they should at least have the courtesy to attempt to write in clear unabbreviated English for the very reason that this has cropped up.

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    Dear Richard1,
    I meant to make the title concise so that other posters could get what the question was from the title itself. Well, I'm a nonnative speaker, and in some texts on grammar I've seen the abbreviated forms of Sb and Sth standing for Somebody and Something. However, I'll take your words and won't use the abbreviated forms any longer.
    Thank you again.

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrgan View Post
    Dear Richard1,
    I meant to make the title concise so that other posters could get what the question was from the title itself. Well, I'm a nonnative speaker, and in some texts on grammar I've seen the abbreviated forms of Sb and Sth standing for Somebody and Something. However, I'll take your words and won't use the abbreviated forms any longer.
    Thank you again.
    I am also interested in concise writing understandable to all readers but I have never seen in my life such abbreviations and I read in English more than in my native language

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    #8

    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    sb (somebody) and sth (something) are very common abbreviations in dictionaries and grammar books; I am surprised that some people have never seen them.

    It is probably better not to use them in the body of a message in this forum, but I see no problem with using them in the title.

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    sb (somebody) and sth (something) are very common abbreviations in dictionaries and grammar books; I am surprised that some people have never seen them.

    It is probably better not to use them in the body of a message in this forum, but I see no problem with using them in the title.
    I use dictionaries in my everyday work but I have never seen sth there.
    I'd rather have used it as "smth"

    BTW, why do you think it is proper to use sth in this forum but not ppl?
    The latter is common-knowledge widely used shortcut for "people" (and is pronounced similar)

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    Re: "to face Sth" or "to be faced with Sth"?

    sth and variations like sthg are commonly used in dictionaries, grammar books, etc, so they could be seen as standard language terminology. Ppl is used in SMS and chat, and generally people on this forum, like many others, find that chat abbreviations make a text harder to read. Also, this is a language forum, so many users prefer people to write in relatively normal English. You will see some abbreviations used, but chat and text language tends to get short shrift, so when posters start writing things like can u help me tnx!!!!, people ask them not to do it.

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