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    Labeling

    I am a homeschool mom and am trying to understand how to label this sentence. If I can't ask this here, do you know of a place I am go online to help me understand or see samples of questions like this:

    The vet, who we trust, gave our dog a shot

    In the dependent clause, who we trust, what is who? We seems like the subject pronoun and trust the verb, but I don't know what to do with who.

    In the independent clause "The vet gave our dog a shot", is shot the DO and dog the IO?

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    Re: Labeling

    Hello M25, welcome to Using English!

    In your first example, "who" (a relative pronoun) is the direct object of "trust". You could also use "whom" in this position.

    In your second example, your analysis is correct.

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    MrP

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    Re: Labeling

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPedantic View Post
    Hello M25, welcome to Using English!

    In your first example, "who" (a relative pronoun) is the direct object of "trust". You could also use "whom" in this position.

    In your second example, your analysis is correct.

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    MrP
    "Whom" is generally considered to be much more formal than "who" and it's therefore avoided in colloquial English today. Regarding grammar, both options will work.

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    The vet, who we trust, gave our dog a shot

    First of all, the clause "who we trust" (which many grammarians say should be whom we trust) is an independent clause because it can be removed from the sentence without changing the essential meaning of the sentence.

    Secondly, the word who is a relative pronoun like which or that.

    Lastly, in your sentence shot is the direct object (the thing given) and the dog is the indirect object (the thing receiving the direct object).

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    Re: Labeling

    Quote Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
    The vet, who we trust, gave our dog a shot

    First of all, the clause "who we trust" (which many grammarians say should be whom we trust) is an independent clause because it can be removed from the sentence without changing the essential meaning of the sentence.
    Such clauses are called non-defining and they are always surrounded by commas. Like you've explained we can remove them, but the sentence will still make sense. If we can't do so, then we have a defining clause which doesn't need commas.

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    Re: Labeling

    Quote Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
    The vet, who we trust, gave our dog a shot

    First of all, the clause "who we trust" (which many grammarians say should be whom we trust) is an independent clause because it can be removed from the sentence without changing the essential meaning of the sentence.
    1. My understanding is that 'who we trust' is a dependent or subordinate clause. It cannot exist without the main or principal clause on which it depends. 'Who we trust' is hardly capable of an independent existence.

    2. I am not so sure that there are all that many grammarians today who would say that it should be 'whom we trust'.

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    Re: Labeling

    To clarify:

    1. The vet, who we trust, gave the dog a shot.

    The underlined part is the main clause. It can also be described as "independent".

    The emboldened part is a subordinate (dependent) clause.

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