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    Question Simple or Complex sentence?

    'Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where they should spend their summer vacation.' is a simple sentence or a complex sentence? Why?
    'where they should spend their summer vacation' is normally an object or it is a dependent clause?
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    Re: Simple or Complex sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by devonpham1998 View Post
    'Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where they should spend their summer vacation.' is a simple sentence or a complex sentence? Why?
    'where they should spend their summer vacation' is normally an object or it is a dependent clause?
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    Devonpham,


    I shall base my answer on two books (which I shall credit at the

    end of this post).

    (1) A complex sentence

    contains one and only one main clause and at least

    one subordinate clause.

    (2) I believe that your sentence has one main clause:

    Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer.

    (3) I believe that "Where they should spend their summer

    vacation" is not a subordinate clause in this sentence.

    (a) I believe that it is a noun clause being used as the

    object of the preposition "over."

    (4) Tom: Pauline and Bruno are always arguing.

    Mona: Over/about what?

    Tom: Over where they should go.

    (5) Compare: Pauline always goes where/wherever Bruno wants

    to go.

    (a) That, I believe, is a complex sentence:

    Only one main clause: Pauline always goes.

    At least one subordinate clause: where Bruno wants to go.

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    Smile Re: Simple or Complex sentence?

    Dear,

    Though, I've read your reply and truly I could understand almost what you mentioned about. I wondered if there was something I missed then I realized there were 2 different states in your reply. Please explain them for me! Thanks! :)
    (Well, I am not really sure if my reply's grammar is right. If you see anything's wrong, correct it for me by the way!)

    Devon Pham
    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    (3) I believe that "Where they should spend their summer

    vacation" is not a subordinate clause in this sentence.



    (a) That, I believe, is a complex sentence:

    Only one main clause: Pauline always goes.

    At least one subordinate clause: where Bruno wants to go.

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    Re: Simple or Complex sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by devonpham1998 View Post
    'Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where they should spend their summer vacation.' is a simple sentence or a complex sentence? Why?
    'where they should spend their summer vacation' is normally an object or it is a dependent clause?
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    Devonpham,


    (1) I apologize for not giving you a clear answer. I shall try again.

    (2) "Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where

    they should spend their summer vacation" is a so-called "simple

    sentence." In your sentence, "where they should spend their summer

    vacation" is NOT called a dependent (subordinate) clause; it's the object of the

    preposition "over." In other words, "They have an argument over

    something." That "something" is "Where they should spend their summer

    vacation." Grammar books call it a noun clause being used as the object

    of a preposition. Why do they call it a noun clause? As you know, the

    object of a preposition is always a noun or some words being used as a

    noun.


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    Re: Simple or Complex sentence?

    Excuse me, I have a small question. What is the difference between 'subordinate clause' and 'dependent clause'?

    And to summarize, 'Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where they should spend their summer vacation.' is a simple or complex sentence?

    Anyway, your replies were very helpful to me. They cleared a big part of my confusion. Thanks! :)

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    Re: Simple or Complex sentence?

    Quote Originally Posted by devonpham1998 View Post
    Excuse me, I have a small question. What is the difference between 'subordinate clause' and 'dependent clause'?

    And to summarize, 'Pauline and Bruno have a big argument every summer over where they should spend their summer vacation.' is a simple or complex sentence?

    Anyway, your replies were very helpful to me. They cleared a big part of my confusion. Thanks! :)

    Dev
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    Dev,


    (1) Yes, your sentence is definitely a simple sentence

    (because it does not have at least one subordinate clause).

    (2) I believe that "dependent" and "subordinate" refer to the

    same thing.

    For example: "I read newspapers because I want to know about

    what is happening."

    "Because I want to know about what is happening" explains why I

    read newspapers. So we can say that "Because I want to know about

    what is happening" is "dependent" (depends) on the main clause

    (sentence) "I read newspapers." I think that many books prefer the

    term "subordinate." Again, "Because I want to know about what is

    happening" is subordinate (lower) to the main clause. In other words, the

    main clause is the "boss," and "Because I want to know what is

    happening" is the "employee" (who, of course, is lower than the boss).


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