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    at the time X at that time

    "The Andrea Doria was an icon of Italian national pride, among all Italy´s ships at the/that time".

    Could I use the or that in that sentence without changes the meaning?

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    Re: at the time X at that time

    Either one, but I would say ... all OF Italy's ships...
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: at the time X at that time

    ***Not a teacher***

    I think there is a very subtle difference between the two.

    In the example:
    'Doctors used to use leeches to bleed patients, as at the time it was thought to be beneficial'
    'Doctors used to use leeches to bleed patients, as at that time, it was thought to be beneficial'

    I think the latter puts emphasis on the difference in practise in those days compared to now. The former is just making an observation, explaining why they used to bleed patients. You can still draw the conclusion that it was in the past but it is not so emphatic. In other words, there is a great deal of overlap and they can be used almost interchangeably, but in my opinion, 'at that time' can bring a little more emphasis on time difference.

    So in the original post:
    "The Andrea Doria was an icon of Italian national pride, among all Italy´s ships at the time".
    I may expect to see/hear this as part of an account of Italy's history, where events contemporaneous with the Andrea Doria were being described.

    "The Andrea Doria was an icon of Italian national pride, among all Italy´s ships at that time".
    I may expect to see/hear this when hearing an account of Italy's current day history where the author/speaker is referring back to a previous time.

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    Re: at the time X at that time

    Quote Originally Posted by TeacherMarco View Post
    "The Andrea Doria was an icon of Italian national pride, among all Italy´s ships at the/that time".

    Could I use the or that in that sentence without changes the meaning?

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    Marco
    Or perhaps for a different emphasis perhaps, 'Amongst all of Italy's ships the Andrea Doria was an icon of Italian pride at that time'.

    As an aside, as a young boy of nearly 10 at the time I remember the sinking making such a big impression on me when my parents were discussing it after listening to reports on radio & tv. This and Jim Laker taking all 19 wickets in the Old Trafford (cricket) test a few days later have both for some reason lodged themselves in my memory.

    Regards

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