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    On market

    I remember someone on this forum telling me that "on the market" is wrong unless one is talking about selling something. So, "the house is on the market" would be correct, but "the company operates on the American market" would be wrong. I am not convinced this is true, though.

    I've often come across "on the market" outside the "sale" context. Here's an excerpt from a judgment of the European Court of Justice, a reliable source one would think:

    113. A decision like the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations may, where it is implemented, result in the undertakings operating on the market in question, namely the clubs, being so linked as to their conduct on a particular market that they present themselves on that market as a collective entity vis-à-vis their competitors, their trading partners and consumers ( Compagnie maritime belge transports and Others v Commission , paragraph 44).

    EUR-Lex - 62002A0193 - EN

    If you continue reading the judgment, you'll see that "on the market" is repeated many times, so "on" cannot be a typo.

    I just thought I'd let you know that.
    Last edited by Allen165; 21-Jan-2011 at 13:46.

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    Re: On market

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin165 View Post
    I remember someone on this forum telling me that "on the market" is wrong unless one is talking about selling something. So, "the house is on the market" would be correct, but "the company operates on the American market" would be wrong. I am not convinced this is true, though.

    I've often come across "on the market" outside the "sale" context. Here's an excerpt from a judgment of the European Court of Justice, a reliable source one would think:

    113. A decision like the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations may, where it is implemented, result in the undertakings operating on the market in question, namely the clubs, being so linked as to their conduct on a particular market that they present themselves on that market as a collective entity vis-à-vis their competitors, their trading partners and consumers ( Compagnie maritime belge transports and Others v Commission , paragraph 44).

    EUR-Lex - 62002A0193 - EN

    If you continue reading the decision, you'll see that "on the market" is repeated many times, so "on" cannot be a typo.

    I just thought I'd let you know that.
    I think all those "ons" should be "ins".

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    Re: On market

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I think all those "ons" should be "ins".
    So do I.

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    Re: On market

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin165 View Post
    I remember someone on this forum telling me that "on the market" is wrong unless one is talking about selling something. So, "the house is on the market" would be correct, but "the company operates on the American market" would be wrong. I am not convinced this is true, though.

    I've often come across "on the market" outside the "sale" context. Here's an excerpt from a judgment of the European Court of Justice, a reliable source one would think:

    113. A decision like the FIFA Players’ Agents Regulations may, where it is implemented, result in the undertakings operating on the market in question, namely the clubs, being so linked as to their conduct on a particular market that they present themselves on that market as a collective entity vis-à-vis their competitors, their trading partners and consumers ( Compagnie maritime belge transports and Others v Commission , paragraph 44).

    EUR-Lex - 62002A0193 - EN

    If you continue reading the judgment, you'll see that "on the market" is repeated many times, so "on" cannot be a typo.

    I just thought I'd let you know that.
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    Jasmin,


    (1) Thank you for sharing this information with us.

    (2) I, too, agree that for many of us, "in the market[place]"

    seems quite "normal."

    (3) I took this sentence from that court decision:

    dominant position on the market for ....

    I then went to Google (of course) and typed in "Dominant

    position on the market."

    Many results came up -- some with on; some with in.

    Many of the results came from reputable sources, such

    as the courts or governmental agencies.

    It is only my guess that Americans would prefer "in."

    Those two prepositions do give us many problems. In fact,

    I read that one of them (I forgot which one) is gradually pushing the

    other one out of the way!!! A famous grammarian once reminded us

    that prepositions really have nothing to do with grammar. It is simply

    a matter of idiom. That is, what the majority of speakers have

    decided should be used in a particular case. That's why we in

    California say, "Stand in line," while New Yorkers "stand on line."


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