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    Personal pronoun 'she'

    Hello everyone

    could someone please explain to me why 'she' is used in the following sentences ?

    'An ace in the hole' comes from a poker game where the first card is dealt face down...so each player can only see HER own hole card. So if someone has 'an ace in the hole' in poker, SHE can win the game with a card that only SHE can see.

    It's not the first time I've come across 'she' in similar sentences (that is, where 'he or she' ot 'they' would be more appropriate)

    Thanks

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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    Quote Originally Posted by andrea91 View Post
    Hello everyone

    could someone please explain to me why 'she' is used in the following sentences ?

    'An ace in the hole' comes from a poker game where the first card is dealt face down...so each player can only see HER own hole card. So if someone has 'an ace in the hole' in poker, SHE can win the game with a card that only SHE can see.

    It's not the first time I've come across 'she' in similar sentences (that is, where 'he or she' ot 'they' would be more appropriate)

    Thanks

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    Andrea,


    (1) Of course, I do not know the answer, but I shall be glad to give you

    my non-teacher opinion.

    (2) For many years, we would use "he" in general terms. For example:

    Everyone has his favorite ice cream flavor.

    (3) Then starting in the 1960's, women started to request equal

    rights (along with other groups).

    (4) So some people started to say:

    Everyone has his or her favorite ice cream flavor.

    (5) Of course, his or her is considered rather long by some

    people, so many people came up with:

    Everyone has their favorite ice cream flavor.

    (6) But some people said that "Everyone" in English takes a

    singular verb.

    (7) The solution, some people decided, was to simply sometimes

    use "she" in general terms just as "he" used to be used in general

    terms.

    (8) So some people say:

    Every student must bring their book tomorrow.
    Every student must bring his or her book tomorrow.
    Every student must bring her book tomorrow.

    BUT it is NOT a good idea to say:

    Every student must bring his book tomorrow, for some

    people will complain about favoring males. But nobody will

    -- openly -- complain about "her book" because we quietly realize that

    the person who says or writes this is trying to show that maybe it's time

    to use she/her in a general sense, just as we used to do with he/him/

    his. If you speak with any English-speaking person, I am sure that she

    will be delighted to explain more to you.


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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    In other words, either the author knows it is a female he is talking about OR he is showing that he is "holier-than-thou" by using trendy "politically correct" language.

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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    Just so I understand you guys, it's okay to use "he" and that's normal and expected, but it's holier than thou to use "she"?

    Okay, thanks.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    "She" is often used as a gender-neutral pronoun in game-theoretical works.

    A course in game theory - Google Ksi

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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Just so I understand you guys, it's okay to use "he" and that's normal and expected, but it's holier than thou to use "she"?

    Okay, thanks.
    See Birdeen's link.

    If the author is selecting pronouns in order to lead his reader to "contemplate sexism in the use of language" in order to "increase social welfare," then yes.

    It's preachy and pretentious.

    That's my opinion.

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    Re: Personal pronoun 'she'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Just so I understand you guys, it's okay to use "he" and that's normal and expected, but it's holier than thou to use "she"
    'fraid so.

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