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    difference in both

    1. I didn't see them go
    2.I didn't see them going

    what's the difference between these two sentences

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by payal desai View Post
    1. I didn't see them go
    2.I didn't see them going

    what's the difference between these two sentences
    ♥♦♣♠ NOT A TEACHER ♥♦♣♠

    The meaning of the first sentence is that the whole event of their (not) going is in focus, while that of the second one is that the focus is on a particular point at which the process of their (not) going didn't actually occur.

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by payal desai View Post
    1. I didn't see them go
    2.I didn't see them going

    what's the difference between these two sentences
    By difference are you asking for the meaning as opposed to the tenses?
    They both convey the same meaning, but you could make a small emphasis if the action of leaving involved something more than just leaving. For example, in 1 the statement is clear and unambiguous, in 2 if the leaving involved a longer period of time with protracted goodbyes which you might have been expected to witness at least in part then that could be slightly better. But it is a very, very fine difference.

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    Unhappy Re: difference in both

    Hi apex,
    thanks i got that but one confusion is that if a person is telling someone that- i didn't see them going than does it also mean that he was also in process of going while seeing at someone and if not then what would be the correct statement for that

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    Unhappy Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    ♥♦♣♠ NOT A TEACHER ♥♦♣♠

    The meaning of the first sentence is that the whole event of their (not) going is in focus, while that of the second one is that the focus is on a particular point at which the process of their (not) going didn't actually occur.
    thanks i got that but one confusion is that if a person is telling someone that- i didn't see them going than does it also mean that he was also in process of going while seeing at someone and if not then what would be the correct statement for that

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by payal desai View Post
    thanks i got that but one confusion is that if a person is telling someone that- i didn't see them going than does it also mean that he was also in process of going while seeing at someone and if not then what would be the correct statement for that
    No.
    I didn't see Mary walking. The speaker did not observe Mary while Mary was walking.
    I didn't see Mary while I was walking. The speaker had been walking, and while the speaker was walking, he or she didn't see Mary.
    Last edited by Barb_D; 02-Feb-2011 at 21:37.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by payal desai View Post
    Hi apex,
    thanks i got that but one confusion is that if a person is telling someone that- i didn't see them going than does it also mean that he was also in process of going while seeing at someone and if not then what would be the correct statement for that
    The statements as you set them down are quite clear; there is no indication that the speaker is doing anything other than making the statement. Therefore you cannot assume that the speaker is 'going' anywhere. For that to be the case then your original statements would need extra wording to cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    No.
    I didn't see Mary walking. The speaker did not observe Mary while Mary was walking.
    I didn't see Mary while I was walking. The speaker had been walking, and while the speaker was walking, he or she didn't see Mary.
    OK so is it the only way to say that, taking another statement such as he is reading a book sitting under the tree may be the correct one.Are these type of formations applicable depending upon the type of events and also it is said like he goes shopping then can't we say that he is going shopping when he is to go for shopping.Are there any rules for these?

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by payal desai View Post
    OK so is it the only way to say that, taking another statement such as he is reading a book sitting under the tree may be the correct one.Are these type of formations applicable depending upon the type of events and also it is said like he goes shopping then can't we say that he is going shopping when he is to go for shopping.Are there any rules for these?
    We say "He is going shopping". I know that in Indian English it is common to say "He is going for shopping" but in BrE and, I think, AmE and AusE "for" is not used.

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    Re: difference in both

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    ♥♦♣♠ NOT A TEACHER ♥♦♣♠

    The meaning of the first sentence is that the whole event of their (not) going is in focus, while that of the second one is that the focus is on a particular point at which the process of their (not) going didn't actually occur.
    Hello engee30! I am usually very comfortable with your posts. And I guess I know what is the difference between those 2 sentences. But now after reading your post I am totally confused. Can you write the bold part in some other way? Specially the "(not)" part.

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