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    had (the tense)

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    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they had thought before they had come here.


    Was the past perfect tense used correctly?

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    #2

    Re: had (the tense)

    Quote Originally Posted by GUEST2008 View Post
    Hi

    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they had thought before they had come here.


    Was the past perfect tense used correctly?
    I would write it as:
    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they had thought before they came here.

    "had thought"? Yes, correct.
    "had come"? No.

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    Re: had (the tense)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khosro View Post
    I would write it as:
    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they had thought before they came here.
    . So would I, though I could also write:

    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they thought before they came here.
    Last edited by 5jj; 03-Feb-2011 at 08:06. Reason: afterthought added.

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    Re: had (the tense)

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    They came to the conclusion that life in this country isn't as beautiful as they thought before they came here.
    Hi

    Why don't you have to use the past perfect here?

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    Re: had (the tense)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khosro View Post
    "had come"? No.
    Why not?

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    Re: had (the tense)

    Quote Originally Posted by GUEST2008 View Post
    Why not?
    I try to explain it. Perhaps other members can explain it better to you.

    "Thinking" and "coming" both happened in the past. But you talk about them in one sentence and with "before". Which one happened later? Answer: "coming". So here we say "came", and not "had come".

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    Re: had (the tense)

    Quote Originally Posted by GUEST2008 View Post
    Why not?
    In normal English conversation, most speakers are not always as concerned about using the past perfect as some grammar books suggest they are.

    This is particularly true with linking words such as 'before' (as Khosro said) and 'after', which in themselves establish the sequence of events.

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