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    #1

    He has come vs He came

    I wonder what feeling native speakers have about "present perfect".
    For many non-nativer speakers, present perfect feels as "past action", but as I learned in wikepedia, I guess it describes "the current state" of the subject. However, I really wonder if they feel the same way as the website describes.
    For example, 1 means his "present state" is "he is here" after coming here, while 2 is focused on his past action.

    1.He has come here.
    2.He came here.

    Do they focus on present state or past state or both when they speak or hear present perfect?

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    #2

    Re: He has come vs He came

    Sentence 1 means:

    He came here (past action) and he is (still) here now (present state).

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    #3

    Re: He has come vs He came

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    I wonder what feeling native speakers have about "present perfect".
    It would be impossible to consider all the implications of the present perfect in one post - or even one thread.

    As an over-simplification, we can say there is always some idea of a state or action that happened, or at least began, in the past and has relevance in some way to the present.

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    #4

    Re: He has come vs He came

    It's not that simple.
    As I learned from wikipedia definition,
    Present perfect is used when the subject is talked about in the present, while simple past tense's subject is talked about in the past.

    He has come - His present state of coming is emphasized.

    I really want to know if native speakers have that feeling when saying present perfect!

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    #5

    Re: He has come vs He came

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    It's not that simple.
    As I learned from wikipedia definition,
    Present perfect is used when the subject is talked about in the present, while simple past tense's subject is talked about in the past.

    He has come - His present state of coming is emphasized.

    I really want to know if native speakers have that feeling when saying present perfect!
    Yes, we do. That's what the present perfect means. It's a present tense which describes a present state dependent upon a past action.
    But there are exceptions.

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