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    since you've seen him

    People might have been asking this question a lot. According to Grammar text-books we can use a past simple, past perfect or present perfect (in some cases) with "since". I had been watching a series "White Collar" and here's what I heard "How long has it been since you've seen him?". Why isn't it "since you saw him"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    People might have been asking this question a lot. According to Grammar text-books we can use a past simple, past perfect or present perfect (in some cases) with "since". I had been watching a series "White Collar" and here's what I heard "How long has it been since you've seen him?". Why isn't it "since you saw him"?
    I think your post contains an answer to your question - you can use a past simple (since you saw him), past perfect (not in this context, though) or present perfect (since you've seen him). Other members will explain the differences to you later on in this thread.

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    Re: since you've seen him

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    I think your post contains an answer to your question - you can use a past simple (since you saw him), past perfect (not in this context, though) or present perfect (since you've seen him). Other members will explain the differences to you later on in this thread.

    past perfect (not in this context, though)- "It was a long time since I had seen him." "Since I saw him" refers to a point in the past. Do we say "since I've seen him" because we want to show its importance to us in the present?
    Last edited by ostap77; 06-Feb-2011 at 20:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    past perfect (not in this context, though)- "It was a long time since I had seen him." "Since I saw him" refers to a point in the past. Do we say "since I've seen him" because we want to show its importance to us in the present?

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    Re: since you've seen him

    Good thinking, ostap.
    Since you saw him, is correct. Whatever that series is or comes from it is not helping you.
    It was a long time since I had seen him -
    It was a long time since I saw him -
    both of these express the same idea. In the first you could use this to report a past meeting that happened a long time after the first one. In the second you could be referring to a more recent meeting, however this is a very, very fine distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apex2000 View Post
    Good thinking, ostap.
    Since you saw him, is correct. Whatever that series is or comes from it is not helping you.
    It was a long time since I had seen him -
    It was a long time since I saw him -
    both of these express the same idea. In the first you could use this to report a past meeting that happened a long time after the first one. In the second you could be referring to a more recent meeting, however this is a very, very fine distinction.
    It comes from an American series.
    What would be your answer regarding "How long has it been since I've seen him?" Was I correct when I tried to answer my own question in post #3?
    Last edited by ostap77; 06-Feb-2011 at 20:25.

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    Re: since you've seen him

    Since I've seen him -
    Since I saw him -
    The second choice is the past.
    The first choice would come in ' it has been a long time since I've seen him' and there is no indication that you have seen him since that previous meeting. You are still waiting to see him.

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