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    opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    For the sake of god, please help me.... pls... pls....

    What is the opposite of 'upper class'?
    1. underclass
    2. lower class
    3. working class

    Thank you.
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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Lower class.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    It depends. There are different theories and descriptions of class that apply to different places and times.

    What is the context?

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by panicmonger View Post
    For the sake of god
    Some people may find this offensive, panicmonger.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Some people may find this offensive, panicmonger.
    Yes. And if you are going to take the Lord's name in vain, at least capitalize it.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Some people may find this offensive, panicmonger.
    Also, it's completely the wrong place to use this phrase - in a new thread before you've even asked the question.
    It's used as an indication of frustration, for example if no one is trying to help you, or you've asked a half a dozen times and no one's replied.
    And the trivial nature of your question doesn't seem to warrant such a cry of angst.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Some people may find this offensive, panicmonger.
    Not just potentially offensive, but also wrong; and, besides, inappropriate.

    If something is particularly important to you, you may feel a need to say 'For God's sake'; not 'for the sake' of anyone. But this degree of urgency is not likely to arise unless you've been trying in vain for some time: 'I've been asking this for months, and nobody will answer me. I need to know for an exam I'm taking tomorrow morning. For ....' (Some people will still find it offensive though. )

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Not just potentially offensive, but also wrong; and, besides, inappropriate.
    (Some people will still find it offensive though.
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    Thank you for your advice.
    I don't know it can be so offensive, because I heard it a lot on TV and English movies/series.

    I like watching western series very much.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    Quote Originally Posted by panicmonger View Post
    Thank you for your advice.
    I don't know it can be so offensive, because I heard it a lot on TV and English movies/series.

    I like watching western series very much.
    Even in those movies, it's offensive to people who consider using God's name without a good reason a bad thing. There are two reasons however which make your usage even more offensive and they were both given by other posters.

    1. As Dave said, you didn't capitalize the word "God". It's customary to capitalize the word and even non-believers usually do it. When you don't do that, it looks like you're disrespecting God and/or those who believe in Him. Some people do it intentionally and it looked as if you had been doing so too.

    2. As Ray said, your "cry of angst" was completely out of place, which made your taking the Lord's name in vain even more in vain.

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    Re: opposite of upperclause - need your profundities

    As BC (and SD previously, I think) have used the expression 'in vain' in a specialized sense, I should explain my use of that expression in a more general sense. They are distinct (though related):

    Specialized: 'taking the name of the Lord in vain ' = using the name of God in an inappropriate context

    General: 'in vain' = with no success, to no effect

    They are related in that some people do (and most people did, in the days when 'taking the name of the Lord in vain' was first used) believe that naming God has an effect. What that effect is thought to be is a matter that should not be discussed in this forum.

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