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    #1

    BS

    What does "BS" mean in the following context?

    Recall that one of the first things Steve did on becoming interim-CEO was to stop selling dozens of products. It's one thing to sketch a cool product on the back of a napkin or BS about it at a meeting of eager designers who are sort of your disciples. But what about those legacy products that are steady sellers.

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    #2

    Re: BS

    bullshit?

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    Re: BS

    Quote Originally Posted by unpakwon View Post
    What does "BS" mean in the following context?

    Recall that one of the first things Steve did on becoming interim-CEO was to stop selling dozens of products. It's one thing to sketch a cool product on the back of a napkin or BS about it at a meeting of eager designers who are sort of your disciples. But what about those legacy products that are steady sellers.

    Thank you.

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    Unpakwon,


    (1) I believe that Verona has given you the answer.

    (2) I believe that the term can be a noun or a verb (as in your

    example):

    (a) Noun: Don't pay attention to what he says. He is full of

    bull****.

    (b) Verb: He bull****s a lot.

    (3) Here in the United States, if you say the complete eight-letter

    word, you will get into big trouble with your teacher, boss, etc.

    I think, for example, it is not allowed on American television or

    radio. (Maybe cable TV allows it -- but not "regular" over-the-air

    television.)

    (4) But if you just say "That's a bunch of bull," people will not be

    too offended. Of course, they know the four letters that you did

    not mention. In general, you should not use "bull****" or even

    "bull." If you do, many people will lose respect for you -- and your

    business.


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    P. S. Here in the United States, some men use it on purpose because

    they think it makes them appear very "macho" (super masculine). Of

    course, no lady would ever say it!!!

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    #4

    Re: BS

    I hope I didn't offend anyone by writing the whole word (as it's a language forum)

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    #5

    Re: BS

    Some very distinguished men have used it too, most notably T. S. Eliot in his poem The Triumph of Bullshit. I cannot post it here because the copyright still lasts, but it's googlable at the moment.

    A philosophical essay entitled On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt was a bestseller in America in 2005.

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    Re: BS

    I should point out that BS can mean to weave elaborate lies (That car salesman was BSing me) or, in this example, can mean to talk fancifully and without regard to reality. A bunch of colleagues, or people in the same field of work can sit around and BS (also, shoot the shit or shoot the breeze) and it doesn't mean they are lying to each other. Like people sitting around talking about what they would do if they ran the company. Or even college kids sitting around discussing how they know how to run the world better.

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    Re: BS

    I see.

    Thank you all for the kind explanation.

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    #8

    Re: BS

    NOT A TEACHER.

    If you want a substitute for "BS" that's not as offensive, you can use "verbal diarrhea."

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    #9

    Re: BS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin165 View Post
    NOT A TEACHER.

    If you want a substitute for "BS" that's not as offensive, you can use "verbal diarrhea."

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    Jasmin,


    Of course, I may be completely wrong, but I most respectfully

    suggest that "BS" and "verbal diarrhea" are sometimes different.

    I think "BS" is often another word for "Nonsense": Don't pay

    attention to him. He's full of BS. (Or -- more gently -- he is

    full of it.)

    I believe that "verbal diarrhea" often means that X simply

    talks too much. Quite possibly what X says is not necessarily

    nonsense, but X simply talks too much and doesn't have the sense to

    know when to stop.


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