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    Smile When could I use "more about the fact that"?

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    When could I use "more about the fact that"?
    First, Does this mean "more based on truth"?


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    Monica: we can’t bury Nana in dresser drawer from Ikea.

    Mr. Geller: See, this is why your mother buys all my clothes. I hate to shop. I hate it!

    Monica: Dad, don’t you think this might be more about the fact that...once you make the decision, it’s like acknowledging Nana’s actually gone?
    (Friends s1 ep9)
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    In this situation, I think it's like correction to Mr. Geller

    It's hard to use this. Let me have some conditions to use this
    (What about this? if someone talk not based on truth or beside topic, I want to correct it)
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    Re: When could I use "more about the fact that"?

    I am not a teacher.

    It does not mean "more based on truth".

    You are seeing a relatively new definition of "about", an extension of the meaning we see in "a story about fishing". We can say that one thing is about another meaning that the second thing inspired the first. For example, "her dress was all about showing off her figure" or "the Christmas party was about building team spirit." It still sounds slangy to me, and I think it is still informal. It is often "all about".

    To break down the sentence: "This" refers to Mr. Geller's mood. His mood is "about" something in the way described above. It is about "the fact that once you make the decision, itís like acknowledging Nanaís actually gone." His bad feelings about Nana's death might have inspired his present mood.

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    Smile Re: When could I use "more about the fact that"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    You are seeing a relatively new definition of "about", an extension of the meaning we see in "a story about fishing". We can say that one thing is about another meaning that the second thing inspired the first.
    is this an extension? "the second thing inspired the first"

    I still don't know what you're getting at.

    Let me know some conditions to use this

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    Re: When could I use "more about the fact that"?

    By "extension" I meant that the new meaning grew out of the old one.

    The phrase you want to ask about is not "more about the fact that", it's "about the fact that something". Monica threw in "more" very loosely. Normally, a "more" needs something to be more than, but that something is often left unsaid. In this case, his mood is more about his grief and less about his hating to shop.

    "The fact that" is a fixed form with many uses. It is not to be taken literally. It is usually not good style in writing, but people say it all the time. For example, the fact that I'm writing this means I have time on my hands. The fact that you're here means that you need help with English.

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    Smile Re: When could I use "more about the fact that"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    "The fact that" is a fixed form with many uses. It is not to be taken literally. It is usually not good style in writing, but people say it all the time. For example, the fact that I'm writing this means I have time on my hands. The fact that you're here means that you need help with English.

    Here in Using English, we are all about helping ESLers perfect their English.
    The fact that you helped me means that you are a good person
    Thanks!

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