Do you use L-vocalization in I´ll, We´ll, ...?

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Hi. I´m a ESL student and I wonder if you use the L-vocalization in these cases at least when you speak quickly.

For example: I´ll have -> /aiohæf ... /

I find difficult to pronounce the Dark-L at the end of those words and even more when I try to speak quickly.


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Hi. I´m a ESL student and I wonder if you use the L-vocalization in these cases at least when you speak quickly.

For example: I´ll have -> /aiohæv ... /

I find difficult to pronounce the Dark-L at the end of those words and even more when I try to speak quickly.


Thank you very much, great forum.

No we don't, sorry.
 

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Hi. I´m a ESL student and I wonder if you use the L-vocalization in these cases at least when you speak quickly.

For example: I´ll have -> /aiohæf ... /

I find difficult to pronounce the Dark-L at the end of those words and even more when I try to speak quickly.


Thank you very much, great forum.
You don't have to pronounce the dark l there. You can use the clear l. Why do you want to use the dark l?
 

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Mates, I´m very confused.

I´ve read Dark-L is used at the end of a syllable or a word. So, is it an exception or what?

I still can´t post urls but there are several in google.
 

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Mates, I´m very confused.

I´ve read Dark-L is used at the end of a syllable or a word. So, is it an exception or what?

I still can´t post urls but there are several in google.
It depends on which English accent is spoken. Some native speakers never use the dark l and so can you, if that's your wish. It shouldn't make your speech less comprehensible, at least not much less. And if the sound is causing you trouble, there may be no reason for you to struggle with it.
 

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I´ve read Dark-L is used at the end of a syllable or a word. So, is it an exception or what?

Professor Roach claims (English Phonetics and Phonology, 2000) that dark l never occurs before vowels in RP.
 

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I really don´t know why you guys say this.


Dark L in american pronunciation:

youtube.com/watch?v=RIrqtZ9LNwk

youtube.com/watch?v=t-mse9XXfDI


Please, watch these videos.
 
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In some BrE dialects such as Cockney and Estuary English, the dark 'l' may be realised as a vowel.
 
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