Sanmayce
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- Jan 25, 2011
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- Bulgarian
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- Bulgaria
I am not happy at all with the current situation regarding irregular-verbs-lists, no matter whether given in study-books as appendixes or as dictionary entries.
This lack of seriousness makes me uneasy and sometimes angry, I just cannot stand unfinished works, especially when they are must-have appendixes to any book I dare to say.
1) How many times, in the middle of something or simply when a quick spell-check was needed, did we need a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs? Thousands.
2) How many times did we need a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs when we [should have] had to make a quick spell-check in the middle of something? Thousands.
3) How many times we had needed a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs when we had had to make a quick spell-check in the middle of something? Thousands.
Not by the way, can anyone explain whether above three sentences are [un]acceptable, please.
I suspect that Simple Past & Simple Past combination goes well along with Simple Past & Future in the Past Perfect Simple.
How about Past Perfect Simple in the third one?
Or to put it simply 'How would you write it?!' I would be glad someone to clear this unclear for me composition. It is [every time] a total mess when I am forced to mimic powerful Bulgarian tenses(where many verbs (e.g. proofread - проверя/проверявам) have 2 forms, count by yourself: 14main-tenses X {1|2}forms = {14|28}total-tenses).
My goal is to cooperate in giving a printer-friendly list containing maximum number of such verbs.
I was pleased and shocked at the same time when 2 weeks ago I encountered 600+? irregular verbs downloadable from this nifty forum.
By this time I thought (ignorance is a never ending story) that my compilation of 387 verbs was almost comprehensive.
It was made by doing some(Random House Webster vs Heritage Dictionary) cross-references.
My primary intention is to fill some gaps into this rich in verbs list.
It would be nice (if not mandatory) to have such a list printed and folded into desktop manuals/books i.e. to be constantly available for speed-checks.
I downloaded 'IrregularVerbs_.txt' and after some proofing/sorting the next (definitionless) list with 532 verbs appeared:
>ABIDE ABODE/ABIDED ABODE/ABIDED/ABIDDEN ABIDES ABIDING
...
I received: The text that you have entered is too long (28942 characters). Please shorten it to 10000 characters long.
So I was forced to cut the rest.
...
>ZINC ZINCED/ZINCKED ZINCED/ZINCKED ZINCS ZINCKING
Last night I clashed my (Kaze) mix (of irregular verbs) against that of the host (English Language (ESL) Learning Online - UsingEnglish.com) and the resultant mix (sorted) of 532+6 verbs follows:
to be put
Note1:
Following verbs were missing:
BLESS BLEST/BLESSED BLEST/BLESSED
DEFREEZE DEFROZE DEFROZEN
OUTFLY OUTFLEW OUTFLOWN
OUTSPREAD OUTSPREAD OUTSPREAD
OVERGROW OVERGREW OVERGROWN
PRECUT PRECUT PRECUT
Note2:
I did not dare (it is a work for specialists) to supply a quick definition after added verbs, this means: another revision ought to be made, for instance a very important verb ('forbear') is given only as transitive - the intransitive is missing.
Note3:
Corrected 'Coosing' to 'CHOOSING'.
Added 'CLEPING' after 'Clepes'.
Corrected 'Mistake Mistaking' to 'MISTAKES MISTAKING'.
Corrected 'Prests Presetting' to 'PRESETS PRESETTING'.
Corrected 'DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMT DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMT' to 'DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMED DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMED'.
Deleted 'PRESELL PRESOLD PRESOLD PRESELLS PRESELLING' - a duplicate exists.
Corrected 'Relearn Relearn' to 'RELEARNS RELEARNING'.
Corrected 'To sepnd less money' to 'TO SPEND LESS MONEY'.
Corrected 'reach a traget' to 'REACH A TARGET'.
Corrected 'To transmit something on televison' to 'TO TRANSMIT SOMETHING ON TELEVISION'.
Corrected 'To execute someone by supending' to 'TO EXECUTE SOMEONE BY SUSPENDING'.
Corrected 'To sew with overcast stitiches' to 'TO SEW WITH OVERCAST STITCHES'.
Corrected 'To seperate things' to 'TO SEPARATE THINGS'.
Corrected '>Resew Resewed Resewn/Reswed' to '>RESEW RESEWED RESEWN/RESEWED'.
Corrected 'To preceed something' to 'To precede something'.
Corrected 'inside a lerger one' to 'INSIDE A LARGER ONE'.
Corrected '>Forget Forgot Forgotten Forgets Foregetting' to '>FORGET FORGOT FORGOTTEN FORGETS FORGETTING'.
Corrected 'something is fale' to 'SOMETHING IS FALSE'.
Corrected 'To secure or encirle' to 'TO SECURE OR ENCIRCLE'.
Corrected 'energy doimg something' to 'ENERGY DOING SOMETHING'.
Corrected 'To compenaste or counterbalance' to 'TO COMPENSATE OR COUNTERBALANCE'.
Note4:
There are some differencies between forms in my(underlined) and the big list, but I think it is OK - after all a reminder of obsolete/archaic and other styles is a good thing.
Especially for people (like me) with superficial knowledge of English a printed list must lay on the (non-)computer desktop always.
This lack of seriousness makes me uneasy and sometimes angry, I just cannot stand unfinished works, especially when they are must-have appendixes to any book I dare to say.
1) How many times, in the middle of something or simply when a quick spell-check was needed, did we need a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs? Thousands.
2) How many times did we need a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs when we [should have] had to make a quick spell-check in the middle of something? Thousands.
3) How many times we had needed a list (not an abridged one) of irregular verbs when we had had to make a quick spell-check in the middle of something? Thousands.
Not by the way, can anyone explain whether above three sentences are [un]acceptable, please.
I suspect that Simple Past & Simple Past combination goes well along with Simple Past & Future in the Past Perfect Simple.
How about Past Perfect Simple in the third one?
Or to put it simply 'How would you write it?!' I would be glad someone to clear this unclear for me composition. It is [every time] a total mess when I am forced to mimic powerful Bulgarian tenses(where many verbs (e.g. proofread - проверя/проверявам) have 2 forms, count by yourself: 14main-tenses X {1|2}forms = {14|28}total-tenses).
My goal is to cooperate in giving a printer-friendly list containing maximum number of such verbs.
I was pleased and shocked at the same time when 2 weeks ago I encountered 600+? irregular verbs downloadable from this nifty forum.
By this time I thought (ignorance is a never ending story) that my compilation of 387 verbs was almost comprehensive.
It was made by doing some(Random House Webster vs Heritage Dictionary) cross-references.
My primary intention is to fill some gaps into this rich in verbs list.
It would be nice (if not mandatory) to have such a list printed and folded into desktop manuals/books i.e. to be constantly available for speed-checks.
I downloaded 'IrregularVerbs_.txt' and after some proofing/sorting the next (definitionless) list with 532 verbs appeared:
>ABIDE ABODE/ABIDED ABODE/ABIDED/ABIDDEN ABIDES ABIDING
...
I received: The text that you have entered is too long (28942 characters). Please shorten it to 10000 characters long.
So I was forced to cut the rest.
...
>ZINC ZINCED/ZINCKED ZINCED/ZINCKED ZINCS ZINCKING
Last night I clashed my (Kaze) mix (of irregular verbs) against that of the host (English Language (ESL) Learning Online - UsingEnglish.com) and the resultant mix (sorted) of 532+6 verbs follows:
to be put
Note1:
Following verbs were missing:
BLESS BLEST/BLESSED BLEST/BLESSED
DEFREEZE DEFROZE DEFROZEN
OUTFLY OUTFLEW OUTFLOWN
OUTSPREAD OUTSPREAD OUTSPREAD
OVERGROW OVERGREW OVERGROWN
PRECUT PRECUT PRECUT
Note2:
I did not dare (it is a work for specialists) to supply a quick definition after added verbs, this means: another revision ought to be made, for instance a very important verb ('forbear') is given only as transitive - the intransitive is missing.
Note3:
Corrected 'Coosing' to 'CHOOSING'.
Added 'CLEPING' after 'Clepes'.
Corrected 'Mistake Mistaking' to 'MISTAKES MISTAKING'.
Corrected 'Prests Presetting' to 'PRESETS PRESETTING'.
Corrected 'DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMT DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMT' to 'DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMED DAYDREAMT/DAYDREAMED'.
Deleted 'PRESELL PRESOLD PRESOLD PRESELLS PRESELLING' - a duplicate exists.
Corrected 'Relearn Relearn' to 'RELEARNS RELEARNING'.
Corrected 'To sepnd less money' to 'TO SPEND LESS MONEY'.
Corrected 'reach a traget' to 'REACH A TARGET'.
Corrected 'To transmit something on televison' to 'TO TRANSMIT SOMETHING ON TELEVISION'.
Corrected 'To execute someone by supending' to 'TO EXECUTE SOMEONE BY SUSPENDING'.
Corrected 'To sew with overcast stitiches' to 'TO SEW WITH OVERCAST STITCHES'.
Corrected 'To seperate things' to 'TO SEPARATE THINGS'.
Corrected '>Resew Resewed Resewn/Reswed' to '>RESEW RESEWED RESEWN/RESEWED'.
Corrected 'To preceed something' to 'To precede something'.
Corrected 'inside a lerger one' to 'INSIDE A LARGER ONE'.
Corrected '>Forget Forgot Forgotten Forgets Foregetting' to '>FORGET FORGOT FORGOTTEN FORGETS FORGETTING'.
Corrected 'something is fale' to 'SOMETHING IS FALSE'.
Corrected 'To secure or encirle' to 'TO SECURE OR ENCIRCLE'.
Corrected 'energy doimg something' to 'ENERGY DOING SOMETHING'.
Corrected 'To compenaste or counterbalance' to 'TO COMPENSATE OR COUNTERBALANCE'.
Note4:
There are some differencies between forms in my(underlined) and the big list, but I think it is OK - after all a reminder of obsolete/archaic and other styles is a good thing.
Especially for people (like me) with superficial knowledge of English a printed list must lay on the (non-)computer desktop always.