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    reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    I wonder what should be used after "to reduce". I've been looking for examples with this word and couldn't find any where it would have an infinitive or a gerund after it.

    He reduced to produce...(wrong)
    He reduced producing... (wong)
    He reduced the producing/the production (should be ok)

    It seems to me that it takes only a noun or a verbal noun. Am I right on that?

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    I wonder what should be used after "to reduce". I've been looking for examples with this word and couldn't find any where it would have an infinitive or a gerund after it.

    He reduced to produce...(wrong)
    He reduced producing... (wong)
    He reduced the producing/the production (should be ok)

    It seems to me that it takes only a noun or a verbal noun. Am I right on that?
    ***not a teacher***
    I suppose 'production' is the right choice.
    Indeed, since 'producing' is a verb in your sentence it would be ungrammatical.
    Last edited by Mehrgan; 23-Feb-2011 at 14:24.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrgan View Post
    ***not a teacher***
    I suppose 'production' is the right choice.
    Indeed, since 'producing' is a verb in your sentence it would be ungrammatical.
    Well, it's not a verb but a verbal noun. Verbs don't take articles. I would even like to know the overall situation not only presented in my examples.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    Well, it's not a verb but a verbal noun. Verbs don't take articles. I would even like to know the overall situation not only presented in my examples.

    Could you please complete your second sentence? Thanks.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    It's possible when a verb like "spend" takes an article:

    You can reduce spending on advertisement.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    I wonder what should be used after "to reduce". I've been looking for examples with this word and couldn't find any where it would have an infinitive or a gerund after it.

    He reduced to produce...(wrong)
    He reduced producing... (wong)
    He reduced the producing/the production (should be ok)

    It seems to me that it takes only a noun or a verbal noun. Am I right on that?
    I can't think of an example of reduce + verb. 1 and 2 are wrong.
    "He reduced the production of metal." is possible. But I'd used "decreased" in this sentence, or "He reduced the production level of metal." Maybe that's a stylistic issue.
    As far as 'reduced + gerund', you can say, "I reduced my spending on luxuries."

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Very interesting isn't it? i think this verb stands out of other verbs. You can't even put a gerund there you need to add a pronoun as well. Interesting.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    I wonder what should be used after "to reduce". I've been looking for examples with this word and couldn't find any where it would have an infinitive or a gerund after it.

    He reduced to produce...(wrong)
    He reduced producing... (wong)
    He reduced the producing/the production (should be ok)

    It seems to me that it takes only a noun or a verbal noun. Am I right on that?
    In what context(s) would you use "He reduced the producing"?

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    Very interesting isn't it? i think this verb stands out of other verbs. You can't even put a gerund there you need to add a pronoun as well. Interesting.
    I'm not sure that it is exceptional. There are a lot of verbs that can be used as you have, for example: "stop, start, continue, begin, commence; consider, suggest, try, delay, put off, rely on ... "
    So, you can say, "Don't stop producing food" but not "Don't reduce producing food." You'd have to say, "Don't reduce [the] production of food."

    Verbs that you can't use directly before a gerund include: "reduce, increase, decrease, plan ...

    Maybe someone can point out the difference between these two groups of verbs.

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    Re: reduce + infinitive, gerund?

    It seems to me that you are missing one nuance I am refering to. These verbs "stop, start, continue etc" can take gerund. But only "reduce" can't take it without a pronoun while others can take both gerund and pronoun+gerund.

    Stop smoking. OK
    Stop your smoking. Ok.
    Reduce smoking. Wrong
    Reduce your smoking. Ok.

    It's just an interesting thing about reduce to my mind.

    PS: Oops.... sorry, this is I who am missing the point. You are right here we have them - "reduce, increase, decrease, plan ..." Could some one add more to this group?

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