go over - meaning

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lukre

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Hi,
can you help me with the meaning of "go over" in this contex:

The communist regime has not completely gone over to market economics but they’ve loosened their ideological grip enough to allow Saigon’s commercial instinct to blossom once again.

I tought the meaning was "the regime hasn't influenced the market economics". But if so. the second part of the sentence doesn't make much sence.

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It means that the regime hasn't yet completely changed the economics. It's still communist, not liberal. I think it should read "economy", not "economics".
 

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I agree. The literal meaning of that expression is 'changed sides', from 'gone over to the other side'.
 

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Converted
 

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I think it's very necessary to add "to" to the "gone over" to make a phrase with the same meaning to "converted", isn't it? (go over to)

Why don't you, teachers, correct the mistakes of the learners right in their sentences (in their posts)? I think it's very useful for learners, I like that way, and I still remember a teacher who has usually corrected our mistakes right in our sentences beside answering our questions, that's emsr2d2, he/she (I'm not sure) hasn't been online for a long time! Hic!
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Let's be clear: going over to the other side (metaphorically) is the same as converting to it. So 'converted' could exactly replace 'gone over' in the original post.

To 'convert to' something means to change your opinions or beliefs. (Cat Stevens converted to Islam.) Also you could convert someone to something, which means changing their opinions or beliefs. (Early missionaries converted people to Christianity.) And you can convert something into something else by changing its structure to fit a different purpose. ("I converted that chair into a table/that barn into a house.")

I'm not sure what you mean when you ask teachers to correct mistakes in the posts. If you mean that all mistakes in the post should be corrected, rather than just the main question, I would say that I prefer to focus on the question the student has raised, perhaps picking out another error if it is a big one. Correcting every little mistake in every post would be tedious for me, would make my replies very long, and could be depressing for the student! :-(

But if you mean that we could quote the student's post and simply insert our corrections - well, some do it that way, but I prefer to explain why I'm correcting. I feel the student learns more that way.
 

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Let's be clear: going over to the other side (metaphorically) is the same as converting to it. So 'converted' could exactly replace 'gone over' in the original post.

To 'convert to' something means to change your opinions or beliefs. (Cat Stevens converted to Islam.) Also you could convert someone to something, which means changing their opinions or beliefs. (Early missionaries converted people to Christianity.) And you can convert something into something else by changing its structure to fit a different purpose. ("I converted that chair into a table/that barn into a house.")

I'm not sure what you mean when you ask teachers to correct mistakes in the posts. If you mean that all mistakes in the post should be corrected, rather than just the main question, I would say that I prefer to focus on the question the student has raised, perhaps picking out another error if it is a big one. Correcting every little mistake in every post would be tedious for me, would make my replies very long, and could be depressing for the student! :-(

But if you mean that we could quote the student's post and simply insert our corrections - well, some do it that way, but I prefer to explain why I'm correcting. I feel the student learns more that way.

I mean teachers should insert their corrections by highlighting them in the quoted texts of the learners!
Yes, I can understand how hard and needy for you to correct the mistakes and post a reply to show these only, but as I mentioned above, the correction is right in the quoted text and no need more words about the mistakes in the content of the post where is for the answer! I think it needs little effort, doesn't it?
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:-o

I'll try to remember to do it that way for you.
 

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Though I understand that sometimes it's boring for a teacher to correct every post made by students it would be very nice of you. At least I would appreciate such a help.
 

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It can even be counter-productive to correct all the time- if the thread is a discussion and people start correcting mistakes, learners may feel discouraged from participating, so a lot depends on the nature of the thread IMO. It can also distract- if the thread is about a verb form, and people start correcting someone's use of the definite article, it can hijack the thread.
 
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