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Hi guys, just wondering why schwa is used in RP for words such as winner, under, yorkshire etc... instead of [ɜː]?
[ɜː] makes more sense to me lol
Iīd like to add that /ə/ occurs only in unaccented syllables, whereas /ɜ:/ can occur in syllables carrying primary or secondary accent.
Letīs take "winner" and "worker" as examples:
Last edited by mara_ce; 28-Mar-2011 at 02:52.
It is the main reason English speakers tend to do so badly in foreign languages, until they can overcome the habit.
Spanish: "internacional" : [in ter na sjo 'nal]
English: "international" : /ˌɪn.təˈnæʃ.ən.əl//-t ̬ɚ-/
In Spanish, all five vowels receive their full pronunciation with their nominal quality. In English, only two do.
Spanish: "America" : [a me ri ka]
English: "America" as pronounced by George Bush: /əm 'er ək ə/
Again, all vowels are fully formed in Spanish, but one of the four is in English.
Your example is just another instance of vowel simplification, our lazy vowel phenomenon.
Personally, I havenīt seen /ə/ in accented syllables. (Iīm not referring to diphthongs)
Gimsonīs Pronunciation of English uses the word only when it compares /ə/ with /ɜ:/.
I haven't been able to find any citations to support my claim. I'll try checking some other sources tomorrow.
I haven't found any source that supports my comment. A search has revealed adverbs such as frequently, mostly, typically and usuallly when applying the schwa to unstressed syllables, but no concrete examples of the schwa sound occurring in stressed syllables. So, I concede to always.
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