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    being or having cleared

    "The sky being clear of clouds, an astronomer carried out further observations."

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    "The sky having cleared of clouds, the astronomer continued observations."

    Would please grade this sentences and say how natural and correct they are?

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    Re: being or having cleared

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    "The sky being clear of clouds, an astronomer carried out further observations."

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    "The sky having cleared of clouds, the astronomer continued observations."

    Would please grade this sentences and say how natural and correct they are?
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    This is what I think is fine and natural (solely to me, of course):
    The sky being clear of clouds, the astronomer continued further observation.

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    This is what I think is fine and natural (solely to me, of course):
    The sky being clear of clouds, the astronomer continued further observation.
    Guess it would be clear from the context that first the sky was clear of clouds and than he observed the sky, if I said "being clear" not "having cleared"?

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    Guess it would be clear from the context that first the sky was clear of clouds and than he observed the sky, if I said "being clear" not "having cleared"?
    The phrase sky + (having) cleared of clouds is something that I cannot tell you whether or not it is okay to say so. If I were to pick a verb to match sky, I'd go for The sky having cleared (up), the astronomer... .
    In either case, it would imply the same thing - the sky was clear again when the astronomer carried on with his observation.

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    The phrase sky + (having) cleared of clouds is something that I cannot tell you whether or not it is okay to say so. If I were to pick a verb to match sky, I'd go for The sky having cleared (up), the astronomer... .
    Would there be a difference "the sky being clear" or "the sky having cleared" in meaning?

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    Re: being or having cleared

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Would there be a difference "the sky being clear" or "the sky having cleared" in meaning?
    Not much, no. Sky + the adjective clear = state; sky + the verb clear = process leading to the state of being something (ie being clear).

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    Not much, no. Sky + the adjective clear = state; sky + the verb clear = process leading to the state of being something (ie being clear).
    Even if the sky first was dark and then cleared up, there would not be much difference. What would you say?
    Last edited by ostap77; 01-Apr-2011 at 22:21.

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    Even if the sky first was dark and then cleared up, there would not be much difference. Waht would you say?
    No, there wouldn't. It must be obvious that the sky should have been dark or overcast or whatever before it got clear again when saying either the sky being clear or the sky having cleared.
    The core meaning of such a sentence is that the astronomer's observation is continued thanks to the fact that weather conditions have improved.

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    No, there wouldn't. It must be obvious that the sky should have been dark or overcast or whatever before it got clear again when saying either the sky being clear or the sky having cleared.
    The core meaning of such a sentence is that the astronomer's observation is continued thanks to the fact that weather conditions have improved.
    Could I have used the indefinite article with "astronomer"?

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    Re: being or having cleared

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    Could I have used the indefinite article with "astronomer"?
    In my opinion - no.

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