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    #1

    turned on its side

    Can one say:

    1-The man stuck in the car turned on its side was crying for help.
    instead of:
    2-The man stuck in the car lying on its side was crying for help.

    The context is obviously that of an accident. The car has not been turned on its side, but has turned on its side. That is why I think "1" is problematic.

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    #2

    Re: turned on its side

    I don't really like either of these. The car didn't do it spontaneously -- it was obviously struck or hit something that caused it to flip.

    The man stuck in the overturned car was crying for help.
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    #3

    Re: turned on its side

    Thanks Barb_D.

    So "overturned" does not necessarily mean "upside down"?

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    Re: turned on its side

    The man stuck in the car lying on its side was crying for help.

    This sentence is perfect. To change the meaning to overturned changes how the car was found. Overturned to me means on its roof. Your sentence implies it was on its side (on the doors).

    "Turned on its side" is ok but is not as natural as "lying"

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    Re: turned on its side

    Quote Originally Posted by allenman View Post
    Overturned to me means on its roof. Your sentence implies it was on its side (on the doors).

    overturn


    –verb (used with object) 1. to destroy the power of; overthrow; defeat; vanquish.

    2. to turn over on its side, face, or back; upset: to overturn a vase.


    –verb (used without object) 3. to turn on its side, face, or back; capsize: The boat overturned during the storm.

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    Re: turned on its side

    I would not assume that overturned meant on its roof. So, since native speakers disagree on what they would picture, if clarity is essential, you should probably say "on its side" or "flipped over."
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    Re: turned on its side

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    if clarity is essential, you should probably say "on its side" or "flipped over."
    Agreed... no confusion there.

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