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    comparing objects with 'times'

    Hello,

    I'm wondering if the structures below are fine. The more I think about them, the more awkward they seem to me.

    There are 5 apples in basket 1. There are 10 apples in basket 2. Comparing the number of apples, I say:

    There are two times more apples in basket 1 than in basket 2.
    There are two times as many apples in basket 1 as in basket 2.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    Hello,

    I'm wondering if the structures below are fine. The more I think about them, the more awkward they seem to me.

    There are 5 apples in basket 1. There are 10 apples in basket 2. Comparing the number of apples, I say:

    There are two times more apples in basket 1 than in basket 2.
    There are two times as many apples in basket 1 as in basket 2.

    Thank you in advance.
    "There are twice as many apples in basket 2 as (there are) in basket 1."
    Last edited by bhaisahab; 08-Apr-2011 at 09:18. Reason: Recounting apples

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Should I use 'twice' in the first sentence as well?

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    Hello,

    There are 5 apples in basket 1. There are 10 apples in basket 2. Comparing the number of apples, I say:

    There are two times more apples in basket 1 than in basket 2.
    There are two times as many apples in basket 1 as in basket 2.

    Thank you in advance.
    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "There are twice as many apples in basket 1 as (there are) in basket 2."
    It seems to me that there are twice as many apples in basket 2 as there are in basket 1.

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    Hello,

    I'm wondering if the structures below are fine. The more I think about them, the more awkward they seem to me.

    There are 5 apples in basket 1. There are 10 apples in basket 2. Comparing the number of apples, I say:

    There are two times more apples in basket 1 than in basket 2.
    There are two times as many apples in basket 1 as in basket 2.

    Thank you in advance.
    But for instance, if it was five times as many:

    There are five times more apples in basket 1 than in basket 2. INCORRECT
    There are five times as many apples in basket 1 as in basket 2. CORRECT

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    I'm afraid I don't get it

    We say 'He's five times older that her"
    but "he has five times more apples than her" is incorrect?

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Quote Originally Posted by riquecohen View Post
    It seems to me that there are twice as many apples in basket 2 as there are in basket 1.
    Only if you are counting.

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    #8

    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    "-Doctor, doctor, everyone seems to ignore me."
    "-Next!"

    I really hope it's not the case here
    I wish I could ask a more interesting question, but this one has been eating away at me since yesterday.
    I've just googled the structure "..times more ... than" and got quite a lot of hits. Some of them are really amusing, like:
    "cows kill 100 times more people every year than sharks do"

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    I'm afraid I don't get it

    We say 'He's five times older that her"
    but "he has five times more apples than her" is incorrect?
    I would say that both terms are correct. The only change that I would make is in the use of the object pronoun, "her," after "than." While this is frequently heard in informal speech, the use of the subject pronoun, "she," is the grammatically correct form.

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    Re: comparing objects with 'times'

    Thank you!

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