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    #1

    all (of) +the

    Hello,

    Quantifiers can be pretty mean sometimes, especially when it comes to using them with the definite article. For instance, I can imagine hearing the following sentences at a party:

    Some people in this room are my friends. (some = determiner)
    or
    Some of the people in this room are my friends (some = pronoun)

    I'm wondering if the pattern applies to 'all' as well. For instance, "The members of his family live in the counrty".

    All [of] the members of his family live in the country.
    or
    All members of his family live in the country.

    Thank you in advance.
    Last edited by Verona_82; 12-Apr-2011 at 07:23.

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    #2

    Re: all (of) +the

    1. "some" is not an adjective. One criterion for an adjective is that it can be premodified by "very". In this respect alone (not to mention others), "some" is already an outsider.
    2. "some" is a partitive determiner.
    3. some of the; all (of) the -- note the (non-)optionality of "of".

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    #3

    Re: all (of) +the

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolex_Cellini View Post
    1. "some" is not an adjective. One criterion for an adjective is that it can be premodified by "very". In this respect alone (not to mention others), "some" is already an outsider.
    2. "some" is a partitive determiner.
    3. some of the; all (of) the -- note the (non-)optionality of "of".
    Thank you for the reply. Of course, some cannot be an adjective, my mistake. I've corrected my original post. However, my question was neither about the optionality of 'of' nor the usage of 'the' after this preposition.

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    #4

    Re: all (of) +the

    I'd appreciate it if anybobody could comment.

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