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    #1

    you and I

    The words in the brackets for the following sentences are my comments, are they right?

    1. you and I (right)

    2. you and me (right)

    3. you and she/he/it (right)_

    4. you and her/him/them (wrong)

    5. you and they/we (right)

    6. you and them/us (wrong)

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    Any comment.

    ju

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    #2

    Re: you and I

    My comment is that you need to put them all into the context of at least a full sentence for us to be able to judge whether or not you understand their usage.

    For example

    1) You and I are good friends.
    Mum baked some buns for you and I.

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    #3

    Re: you and I

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    My comment is that you need to put them all into the context of at least a full sentence for us to be able to judge whether or not you understand their usage.

    For example

    1) You and I are good friends.
    Mum baked some buns for you and I.

    Rover
    Does it mean that if :

    a. they both are subjects, then we use You and I

    eg. You and I are waiting for the plane to land to get on.
    __________________________________________________ _________

    b. they both are objects, then we use You and me

    eg. Mum is getting angry with you and me of not doing the job properly.

    eg. Jane likes you and me as her boyfriends. How silly she is.
    __________________________________________________ ____________


    ju

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    #4

    Re: you and I

    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    eg. You and I are waiting for the plane to land to get on.
    eg. Mum is getting angry with you and me of not doing the job properly.
    eg. Jane likes you and me as her boyfriends. How silly she is.
    1. Who is waiting for the plane? -> You and I.
    2. Whom does Mum get angry with? -> With you and me. (I hope this sentence is okay!?)
    3. Whom does Jane like as her boyfriends? Janes likes you and me.

    In sentence 2 and 3 you could also use "who", but in sentence 1 you can only use "who".

    If you can only use who, use you and I.
    If you can also use whom, use you and me.

    Cheers!

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    #5

    Re: you and I

    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    Does it mean that if :

    a. they both are subjects, then we use You and I

    eg. You and I are waiting for the plane to land to get on.
    __________________________________________________ _________

    b. they both are objects, then we use You and me

    eg. Mum is getting angry with you and me of not doing the job properly.

    eg. Jane likes you and me as her boyfriends. How silly she is.
    __________________________________________________ ____________


    ju
    Yes

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    #6

    Re: you and I

    Your assumptions about 4 and 6 are incorrect. Those also work in the right context.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #7

    Re: you and I

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Your assumptions about 4 and 6 are incorrect. Those also work in the right context.
    Good find.
    It seems we did not see that.

    Ju, look:
    1. Whom do I like?
    1. I like you and them.


    2. Whom does he like?
    2. He likes you and us.


    3. Who will be at the party?
    3. I and they will be at the party.

    4. Who will play tonight?
    4. You and we will play tonight.


    You could also use who in sentence 1 and 2, but in sentence 3 and 4 you can only use who.

    Another note:
    It's also better to mention the others and then oneself:
    They and I will be at the party.

    Cheers!

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    #8

    Re: you and I

    While grammaticaly correct, most of those are highly unnatural and almost completely unlikely to ever be heard.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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