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    Could a count noun immediately follow the phrase "depend on" without using an article (a, an, the)?

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    Re: DEPEND ON

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    Could a count noun immediately follow the phrase "depend on" without using an article (a, an, the)?
    Yes, if it's a plural. Otherwise, I can't think of an example just now. Probably not.

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    i mean a SINGULAR count noun.

    But what about "vary with"?

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    Quote Originally Posted by Migg View Post
    i mean a SINGULAR count noun.

    But what about "vary with"?
    No. Did you have any phrases in mind using singular count nouns?

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    "depend on venue", "vary with venue", .... According to several dictionaries, "venue" is COUNTABLE, unless.... they are wrong or incomplete.

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    Quote Originally Posted by Migg View Post
    "depend on venue", "vary with venue", .... According to several dictionaries, "venue" is COUNTABLE, unless.... they are wrong or incomplete.
    OK, well that's telegraphic writing.
    On an advertisement, "Catering varies with venue" means "The catering varies with the venue". "The type of catering depends upon the venue."
    I assumed you meant in a full, proper sentence.

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    "While it does not specify training methods, Cal/OSHA says that evaluation of compliance will also depend on manner of presentation, and that enforcement personnel will quiz employees in assessing whether an employer has made a good faith effort to convey essential content."


    "manner", in this context, is countable. I found the above paragraph from some newsletter.

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    Re: DEPEND ON

    Quote Originally Posted by Migg View Post
    "While it does not specify training methods, Cal/OSHA says that evaluation of compliance will also depend on manner of presentation, and that enforcement personnel will quiz employees in assessing whether an employer has made a good faith effort to convey essential content."


    "manner", in this context, is countable. I found the above paragraph from some newsletter.
    Good. You have found an example. Yes, this is quite acceptable. It's still an abbreviation, but it is correct English.
    So the answer to your original question is, "Yes, in some cases, especially when the noun is abstract."

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