# Thread: I'm 0 for 5

1. ## I'm 0 for 5

In the US TV series, Monk is being stared down by a deliveryman who wants more money than the agreed amount.

Monk breaks off to tell his assistant, Natalie, about it.

She says 'Just look him in the eye and say "NO"'.

Monk replies 'I don't think I can. I've never won a stare-down in my life. I'm oh for five.'

That's what it sounded like, and the subtitle (AE closed caption) rendered it I'm 0 for 5.

Does that mean anything to any of you?

Rover

2. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

I know it's a sporting reference but not sure which sport. It means someone's had five goes at something but has so far scored zero.

Doesn't have to be 5.

If I've had 3 attempts at making a decent risotto (for example) but so far they've all been disastrous, I'd say I was O for 3.

So he's taken part in 5 staredowns and won none of them.

3. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

It's from baseball. The batter tries to hit the ball the pitcher throws (in a way which lets him reach a base safely). If he fails, he makes an "out."

Batting averages are calculated based on how many "hits" he gets divided by how many "at bats" (attempts).

During a typical game, each player gets several chances to bat. So on a good night he may be 2 for 3 or 4 for 4. But on a bad night, he would be 0 for 4.

4. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Exactemonte.
You can also be 0-5 stealing bases, throwing out runners, and etc., but primarily it's the batter's hits per at bats.
1000 AB, 375 H = .375 batting average. (3.75/5) Batter up.

5. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Thank you all for satisfying my curiosity.

Rover

6. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Originally Posted by JTRiff
Exactemonte.
You can also be 0-5 stealing bases, throwing out runners, and etc., but primarily it's the batter's hits per at bats.
1000 AB, 375 H = .375 batting average. (3.75/5) Batter up.
They play baseball in Japan and after reading and watching the sports reports here, I have to confess that it makes absolutely no sense at all to me- they splatter me with statistics but I have no idea what any of it means. Baseball is probably a serious candidate for the most impenetrable sport of all. It didn't take long to work sumo out, but I have no idea what seventh innings with the bases loaded, etc, means.

7. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

We feel the same way about cricket. Or we would, if we tried to pay attention.

8. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Originally Posted by Tdol
They play baseball in Japan and after reading and watching the sports reports here, I have to confess that it makes absolutely no sense at all to me- they splatter me with statistics but I have no idea what any of it means. Baseball is probably a serious candidate for the most impenetrable sport of all. It didn't take long to work sumo out, but I have no idea what seventh innings with the bases loaded, etc, means.
Baseball is the undisputed leader in the generation of statistics. It gets ridiculous. "He is batting .275 overall, but he's .350 against left-handed pitchers with a runner on base while playing on an artificial surface when his team is behind by 2 or more runs."

The game itself has a simple premise: hit the ball in order to go home.

I vote for cricket as impenetrable. It goes on for days and includes breaks for tea.

9. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Originally Posted by SoothingDave
I vote for cricket as impenetrable. It goes on for days and includes breaks for tea.
It seems to be pretty much like a family reunion then. Nothing impenetrable about that.

10. ## Re: I'm 0 for 5

Originally Posted by SoothingDave
I vote for cricket as impenetrable. It goes on for days and includes breaks for tea.

Come to think of it, it is penetrable. You just need proper motivation. Mine had a man's name. ;)

The worst it can get is five days, so called Test cricket. But there are forms which only take about 4 hours. Woohoo!

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