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    without their friends being told

    Hello.

    They got married without telling any of their friends.


    In this sentence I put their friends being told and I feel as though I was wrong because the passive voice sounds odd here for me. Dear teacher, please confirm that my answer was incorrect.

    And here is the second part of the question, why telling is used without any pronoun (this/that/it) being transitive (as far as I can judge)?

    Thanks, Alex.

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    Re: without their friends being told

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexAD View Post
    Hello.

    They got married without telling any of their friends.

    In this sentence I put their friends being told and I feel as though I was wrong because the passive voice sounds odd here for me. Dear teacher, please confirm that my answer was incorrect.
    It's not incorrect to say what you original intended. By the passive form doesn't necessarily specify that it was the marrying couple that neglected to tell their friends. It just means they were not unformed by anyone.

    And here is the second part of the question, why "telling" is used without any pronoun (this/that/it) being transitive (as far as I can judge)?
    A verb being transitive has nothing to do with pronouns; but "without" is a pronoun. The object of 'telling' is "any of their friends".
    But I don't understand the question.

    Thanks, Alex.
    R.

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    Re: without their friends being told

    Thanks Raymott, for your reply.

    You write that a verb being transitive isn't tied up with pronouns.
    The only thing I wanted to say was this sentence

    They got married without telling it/this/that any of their friends.

    sounded good for me while the other didn't.

    As I looked into the dictionary I found that a verb is called transitive when it used with a direct object. In this situation I guessed the direct object was that pronoun it/this/that (don't know whether any of these pronouns could be used?) because it answers the question what? i.e. telling what? That is why I wrote that way.

    Could you please correct me where in my thoughts I wasn't right.

    Thank you very much, Alex.

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    Re: without their friends being told

    Not a teacher

    I think I get your point:

    "telling" present participle + "any of their friends" object.

    - Without telling who?
    - Any of their friends.

    Maybe it helps,

    M.

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    Re: without their friends being told

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexAD View Post
    Thanks Raymott, for your reply.

    You write that a verb being transitive isn't tied up with pronouns.
    The only thing I wanted to say was this sentence

    They got married without telling it/this/that any of their friends.

    sounded good for me while the other didn't.

    As I looked into the dictionary I found that a verb is called transitive when it used with a direct object. In this situation I guessed the direct object was that pronoun it/this/that (don't know whether any of these pronouns could be used?) because it answers the question what? i.e. telling what? That is why I wrote that way.

    Could you please correct me where in my thoughts I wasn't right.

    Thank you very much, Alex.
    I see what you mean. With tell, if you've just mentioned the direct object ("that they got married ) then you don't need to repeat it; you just put in the indirect object "their friends".

    "They got married, without telling their friends (ind. ob.) that they got married. (dir. ob.)"
    "They got married, without telling it [dir. obj] to their friends (ind. ob.) "
    ("it" = "that they got married") This is not natural, though it's grammatical.
    "They got married, without telling their friends." - This is right.

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