Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Italian
      • Home Country:
      • Italy
      • Current Location:
      • Italy

    • Join Date: Aug 2006
    • Posts: 769
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #1

    uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Strange as it may seem, driving a car can cause many aches and pains. They only occur because drivers are uncareful/careless about certain things and most are avoidable.
    Keep your seat in a reasonable/reasonably upright position

    Are they both interchangeable? In the exercise I have done, I have selected the first ones of both, but the book suggested the second ones. What's your opinion?

  1. emsr2d2's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 34,249
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #2

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    "Uncareful" does not exist.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Italian
      • Home Country:
      • Italy
      • Current Location:
      • Italy

    • Join Date: Aug 2006
    • Posts: 769
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #3

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    and what about the other one?

  2. BobK's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2006
    • Posts: 16,035
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #4

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    And you need an adverb to modify 'upright', so 'reasonable' won't do.

    b

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Polish
      • Home Country:
      • Poland
      • Current Location:
      • Poland

    • Join Date: Jul 2010
    • Posts: 5,098
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #5

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    And you need an adverb to modify 'upright', so 'reasonable' won't do.

    b
    However,

    Keep your seat in a reasonable, upright position.

    would be acceptable in my opinion, if someone really wanted to say it. I'm not sure why, but without the comma it seems wrong to me.

  3. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,135
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #6

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    However,

    Keep your seat in a reasonable, upright position.

    would be acceptable in my opinion, if someone really wanted to say it. I'm not sure why, but without the comma it seems wrong to me.
    Without the comma, it seems as if you have mistakenly used the adjective instead of the adverb. With the comma, there is no problem.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Polish
      • Home Country:
      • Poland
      • Current Location:
      • Poland

    • Join Date: Jul 2010
    • Posts: 5,098
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #7

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    Without the comma, it seems as if you have mistakenly used the adjective instead of the adverb. With the comma, there is no problem.
    It does seem so, but why? Can't "reasonable" modify "upright position"? When I start thinking of this, the feeling of incorrectness goes away.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Apr 2009
    • Posts: 11,818
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #8

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    "Reasonable" can modify "position." With the comma, it's two adjectives, both modifying "position."

  4. BobK's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2006
    • Posts: 16,035
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #9

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Also, I have the impression that 'reasonably' means 'more or less' more often than it means 'in a reasonable way'. I don't know how to test this (apart from hacking through all corpus hits for 'reasonably' - which I may do when I have time - I'm sure some corposes have semantic markers - in this case approximateness vs rationality - but I don't know how to use them).

    I also think 'reasonable' means 'thinking rationally' more often than it means 'approximate' - some dictionaries might indicate this by listing a primary and a secondary sense, but most dictionaries I've met don't have derived adverbs as separate headwords.

    b
    Last edited by BobK; 14-Jun-2011 at 13:26. Reason: Changed format

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Polish
      • Home Country:
      • Poland
      • Current Location:
      • Poland

    • Join Date: Jul 2010
    • Posts: 5,098
    • Post Thanks / Like
    #10

    Re: uncareful - careless; reasonable - reasonably

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    "Reasonable" can modify "position." With the comma, it's two adjectives, both modifying "position."
    Yes, but it doesn't explain why it's incorrect without the comma. I think it's grammatically correct not to use the comma.

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. careless not using
    By namloan in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 06-Dec-2010, 11:06
  2. careless erudition
    By Eway in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 25-Jun-2008, 03:08
  3. careful vs. careless
    By spoon in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 30-Apr-2006, 16:44
  4. Could careless
    By Arady in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-Nov-2005, 14:48
  5. Uncareful?
    By Fredrik in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 26-Aug-2004, 00:34

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •