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    The waters of the Atlantic?

    My grammar material is saying "we can pluralize noun-count nouns when we use the word to express a "type". Is "waters" here a type of sea water? Why was is pluralized? Does it have any difference from "the water of the Atlantic"?

    ex)The waters of the Atlantic are much warmer this time of year.

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    My grammar material is saying "we can pluralize noun-count nouns when we use the word to express a "type". True.

    Is "waters" here a type of sea water? All the water in the Atlantic is sea water.

    Why was is pluralized? See below.

    Does it have any difference from "the water of the Atlantic"? See below.

    ex)The waters of the Atlantic are much warmer this time of year.
    If it said "The water of the Atlantic is much warmer at this time of year", it would mean that all the water in the Atlantic is warmer. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be true - the Atlantic is huge and I imagine that some of it stays rather cold all the time!

    By saying "the waters of the Atlantic" I think they're trying to convey the idea that only some areas of the water in the Atlantic are warmer.

    Maybe an oceanographer can chip in?! There must be one on here somewhere.

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If it said "The water of the Atlantic is much warmer at this time of year", it would mean that all the water in the Atlantic is warmer. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be true - the Atlantic is huge and I imagine that some of it stays rather cold all the time!

    By saying "the waters of the Atlantic" I think they're trying to convey the idea that only some areas of the water in the Atlantic are warmer.

    Maybe an oceanographer can chip in?! There must be one on here somewhere.
    So, it's kind of contradictory, but do you mean that a pluralized noun which feels bigger represent a part of the singluar noun which is actually bigger? So is "the waters" a part of "the water"? I'm just curious.

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    Not a teacher

    That is probably because an ocean has several marginal seas. The Atlantic, for instance has the Baltic, the North, the Black and the Mediterranes seas, among others. I think "waters" reffers to these.

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    Another possible construction is:

    The waters of the Atlantic (as opposed to those of some other ocean.)

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    Quite. But what's in question is why "waters".

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    Re: The waters of the Atlantic?

    "The waters of XXX " generally seems to suggest the area (or volume) of XXX rather than just the liquid itself.

    The waters of the Atlantic are home to thousands of species of fish.

    We can open the bar once we are out of their territorial waters.

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