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I believe you all have already heard of a song by Sting named 'Englishman in New York', in this song, the composer says 'I am a legal alien, I am an Englishman in New York'. I wonder why the composer would use such words. Did he assume that English people are not as sophisticated?

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Dear teachers and friends

I believe you all have already heard of a song by Sting named 'Englishman in New York', in this song, the composer says 'I am a legal alien, I am an Englishman in New York'. I wonder why the composer would use such words. Did he assume that English people are not as sophisticated?

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Which word in the quoted lyrics do you think has any connection with sophistication?
 

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Which word in the quoted lyrics do you think has any connection with sophistication?

None, it just sounded like New York was a bit too sophisticated for foreigners.
 

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None, it just sounded like New York was a bit too sophisticated for foreigners.

I'm still confused. Why do you think that sentence sounds like New York is too sophisticated for foreigners?
 

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Dear teachers and friends

I believe you all have already heard of a song by Sting named 'Englishman in New York', in this song, the composer says 'I am a legal alien, I am an Englishman in New York'. I wonder why the composer would use such words. Did he assume that English people are not as sophisticated?

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Hi, Offroad!

I think the song refers to this: Alien (law) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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In the US, the word alien is an old legal term for a foreigner.
 

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Quentin Crisp, the subject of the song, said he wanted to become a naturalised citizen in the USA so he could commit crimes- a legal alien in order to break the law.
 

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Mara_ce sent me this a link from which I could get this:

In Sting's song Englishman in New York he refers to the term "Legal Alien", what is a "Legal Alien"?

Being a legal alien means you are allowed to be somewhere, but don't really fit in. Sting has the perfect example: The Englishman in New York.

A typical Englishman, distinquished, high esteem, upper class, can feel quite out of place when positioned in New York, which is high speed, high energy, fast, and a bit brutal.

The formal definition of a legal alien is:
"An alien who is legally permitted to remain in a country which is foreign to him or her. On specified terms, this kind of alien may be called a legal alien of that country."
source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(law)
I hope none of you take this as an offense.

This is one of the videos I can't stop listening to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flWP28y2cyw
 
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