Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Japanese
      • Home Country:
      • Japan
      • Current Location:
      • Japan

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 33
    #1

    Subject-Verb Agreement

    Hello.

    Today I would like to ask about the use of pass with regard to so-called "Subject-Verb Agreement."
    If you look up the word "pass" in a dictionary, you will come across such sentence as (1) given below.

    (1) Six years have passed since my father died.

    The reason why have, instead of has, is used is that "six years" is a plural noun phrase, of course. However, if you think of "six years" as a unit, in my opinion, you can also say "Six years has passed..."

    I want to know whether there is anything in my way of thinking.

    Thanks in advance.

  1. Raymott's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Australia
      • Current Location:
      • Australia

    • Join Date: Jun 2008
    • Posts: 24,092
    #2

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by yamadew View Post
    Hello.

    Today I would like to ask about the use of pass with regard to so-called "Subject-Verb Agreement."
    If you look up the word "pass" in a dictionary, you will come across such sentence as (1) given below.

    (1) Six years have passed since my father died.

    The reason why have, instead of has, is used is that "six years" is a plural noun phrase, of course. However, if you think of "six years" as a unit, in my opinion, you can also say "Six years has passed..."

    I want to know whether there is anything in my way of thinking.

    Thanks in advance.
    Yes, that's right. Your thinking is correct.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Japanese
      • Home Country:
      • Japan
      • Current Location:
      • Japan

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 33
    #3

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes, that's right. Your thinking is correct.
    Thank you very much.
    By the way, I wonder why "so-called" is deleted...
    I'd apreciate if I you give me some advice.

  2. emsr2d2's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 41,875
    #4

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by yamadew View Post
    Thank you very much.
    By the way, I wonder why "so-called" is deleted...
    I'd apreciate if I you give me some advice.
    "So-called" suggests that something is badly named or that it's not its official title.

    Rafael Nadal is the so-called "King of the Clay Court".

    The Subject-Verb Agreement rule is an actual rule. That's what it's called, not "so-called".

  3. Raymott's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Australia
      • Current Location:
      • Australia

    • Join Date: Jun 2008
    • Posts: 24,092
    #5

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    To add to the above, it tends to indicate that you don't agree with the term; you personally have something against it.
    You're saying, "That's what they call it, but I disagree."

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Japanese
      • Home Country:
      • Japan
      • Current Location:
      • Japan

    • Join Date: Sep 2010
    • Posts: 33
    #6

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Thank you very much for both the answers.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • England

    • Join Date: Jun 2010
    • Posts: 24,500
    #7

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    I consider 'Six years has passed. . .' to be incorrect.

    Rover

  4. emsr2d2's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 41,875
    #8

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I consider 'Six years has passed. . .' to be incorrect.

    Rover
    So do I.

    "A period of six years has passed..." = fine.
    "Six years have passed..." = fine

  5. Barb_D's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Mar 2007
    • Posts: 19,221
    #9

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    I find it okay dependingn on whether you think of it as one big chunk of time or six individual years.

    How do you feel about "Six years is a long time to wait"?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

  6. Raymott's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Australia
      • Current Location:
      • Australia

    • Join Date: Jun 2008
    • Posts: 24,092
    #10

    Re: Subject-Verb Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    So do I.

    "A period of six years has passed..." = fine.
    "Six years have passed..." = fine
    Yes, but "a period of" is understood. Not everything needs to be spelt out.
    Sometimes "six years" means six seperate years, and sometimes it means a time period.

    How do you feel about "Six pints are a lot of milk to drink at once"? (I think it sounds silly. It obviously means "a quantity of six pints".)
    "Six miles are a long way to walk." How about this?

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. [Grammar] subject verb agreement
    By wnc_hk in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 31-Mar-2010, 19:54
  2. subject verb agreement
    By lhn in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 08-Aug-2008, 11:08
  3. subject-verb agreement
    By bosunyum in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 15-Jul-2006, 11:14
  4. subject verb agreement
    By chiewnet in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 20-Jun-2006, 03:34

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •