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    Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    Dear Teachers,

    If an educational background of one of an English staff stated "Secondary Modern School", it refers to which grade. In Thailand, before going to university, we learn 6 years in Primary school (Grade 1-6) and another 6 years in Secondary school (Grade 7-12).

    Kindly give me your advice, please. Thank you very much.

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    #2

    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    It's unclear to me- a Secondary Modern was a type of school, so it would depend on what exams the person took there:
    Secondary modern school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    #3

    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    Dear Khun Tdol,

    Thanks for your reply. I think it is not polite to ask him what grade he was graduated, but if there is no choice I may have to ask.

    Thank you.

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    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    Note that the question 'What grade did you graduate?' is meaningless in Br Eng. Leaving a Secondary Modern School was never 'graduating'. 'Graduating' is something that happens to university students.

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    #5

    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    If you are interviewing a person for a job or for an assignment, you don't have to worry about whether it is "polite" to ask about their educational background. That is part of their qualifications. It's not personal -- it's business.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    If it says secondary, in the school context, it is probably from ages 14 to 18 roughly speaking.

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    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    In England, primary schools are for children aged 5 to 11, secondary for children aged 11 to 16/18.

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    #8

    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    Actually, the article says this type of school "was designed for the majority of pupils - those who do not achieve scores in the top 25% of the eleven plus examination." So it seems they were an A-level variant or substitute, for those aged 16-18 or so.

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    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Actually, the article says this type of school "was designed for the majority of pupils - those who do not achieve scores in the top 25% of the eleven plus examination." So it seems they were an A-level variant or substitute, for those aged 16-18 or so.
    In those Secondary Moderns that had a Sixth Form, A levels were generally not on the menu. They offered vocational things like the HNCs (Higher National Certificate); but many had no provision for 16-18 year-olds - acting as 'feeder schools' for Technical Colleges and Polytechnics. (Note: these terms are all obselete; educational policy in the UK is measured in Revolutions per Minute.)

    Some pupils went to a Grammar School to do A levels. But many people left Secondary Moderns as soon as they legally could, and with no qualifications at all - the moment they turned 16 (not even completing their last year).

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    Last edited by BobK; 30-Jun-2011 at 10:02. Reason: fix typo

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    #10

    Re: Secondary Modern School refers to which grade?

    I was under the impression that a Secondary Modern took pupils from 12 to 16 (same as high school and secondary school). I thought it was the old name for a school that wasn't a grammar school (which took pupils from 11 to 16).

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