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    Question Lie

    Hello

    Are there any differences among:

    veritable lie
    true lie
    real lie
    substantial lie

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    And which one is the best for expressing a really big lie, which is lie for sure?

    Thank you :)

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    Re: Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettBegoni View Post
    Hello

    Are there any differences among:

    veritable lie
    true lie
    real lie
    substantial lie

    ?

    And which one is the best for expressing a really big lie, which is lie for sure?

    Thank you :)
    Any lie is a lie. If it's not true, it's a lie. We do have phrases for the different levels of lie, I guess.

    A little white lie = small, unimportant lie
    A lie = general lie
    A whopper = a very big lie

    I've never heard of a "veritable lie" or a "substantial lie".

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    Re: Lie

    true or real lie would be okay? :)

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    Re: Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettBegoni View Post
    true or real lie would be okay? :)
    I don't see how something can be a "true lie". The two are exact opposites of each other. I suppose something could be a "real lie" as opposed to a "false lie" or a "fake lie" though I can't really think of a context where I would use them.

    As I said, a lie is a lie.

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    Re: Lie

    There's a film called True Lies.

    An enigmatic title like this is designed to make you watch the film if only to satisfy your curiosity about why they called it that.

    Rover

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    Re: Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by e, msr2d2 View Post
    . I suppose something could be a "real lie" as opposed to a "false lie" or a "fake lie" though I can't really think of a context where I would use them.
    If I say that my daughter's expensive new hairstyle looks good when I think it looks terrible, we might class this as a white lie.There is no intent to maliciously deceive.
    If I tell my wife that I have been called away for an important business conference in London when I am actually going to spend the weekend with my mistress, that's a whopper, a real lie. There is deliberate intent to seriously deceive.

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    Re: Lie

    Not a teacher.

    The word veritable is used as an intensifier. For example in "a veritable curse", "a veritable swine" etc.

    So I think it is legitimate to say veritable lie. Isn't it?
    Last edited by aachu; 02-Jul-2011 at 09:51.

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    Re: Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by aachu View Post
    So I think it is legitimate to say veritable lie.Isn't it?
    It's possible, but not very common. COCA gives no examples of 'veritable lie', six of 'real lie' and 93 of 'white lie'.

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    Re: Lie

    The context I have meant is for example:
    Two people are arguing, because one of them is a liar.
    -How could you say that? It's a real lie!

    Just to express how serious it was, not using "a whopper".

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    Re: Lie

    Not a teacher.

    You could say,"It's an absolute lie" or "It's a total lie".
    Last edited by aachu; 02-Jul-2011 at 15:33.

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