Results 1 to 5 of 5
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • South Korea

    • Join Date: Jul 2011
    • Posts: 1
    #1

    Is the "the" necessary here? Why or why not?

    Our school is having a debate over a student's answer to a test.

    "The higher we go up, the colder weather becomes."

    Is the "the" necessary between colder and weather? Why or why not?

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Abkhazian
      • Home Country:
      • Afghanistan
      • Current Location:
      • Afghanistan

    • Join Date: Apr 2011
    • Posts: 44
    #2

    Re: Is the "the" necessary here? Why or why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by eam242 View Post
    Our school is having a debate over a student's answer to a test.

    "The higher we go up, the colder weather becomes."

    Is the "the" necessary between colder and weather? Why or why not?
    We go up higher and (the) weather becomes colder. (The) weather becomes colder.

    The weather becomes colder.
    Weather becomes colder.

    Quote Originally Posted by eam242 View Post
    Is the "the" necessary
    Either way it is fine, IMO.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Laos

    • Join Date: Nov 2002
    • Posts: 57,910
    #3

    Re: Is the "the" necessary here? Why or why not?

    I would say the colder the weather becomes.

  1. 5jj's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic

    • Join Date: Oct 2010
    • Posts: 28,134
    #4

    Re: Is the "the" necessary here? Why or why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolex_Cellini View Post
    We go up higher and (the) weather becomes colder. (The) weather becomes colder.

    The weather becomes colder.
    Weather becomes colder. Either way it is fine, IMO.
    The second is not fine.

    1. We go up higher and the weather becomes colder.

    This is OK, but it does not mean exactly the same as

    2. The higher we go up, the colder the weather becomes.

    #1 simply records two situations: We go up higher. It becomes colder. The two are not necessarily related.

    #2 tells us that the weather becomes increasingly colder as we go higher. The fall in temperature is related to our ascent.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Dec 2009
    • Posts: 6,332
    #5

    Re: Is the "the" necessary here? Why or why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by eam242 View Post
    Our school is having a debate over a student's answer to a test.

    "The higher we go up, the colder weather becomes."

    Is the "the" necessary between colder and weather? Why or why not?

    NOT A TEACHER


    (1) "The warmer the weather, the better I feel." (Murphy, Raymond. Grammar in Use.)

    (2) Your sentence should -- in my opinion -- read:

    The higher we go up, the colder the weather becomes.

    (a) The first two the's are adverbs that = by that much.

    (b) the third the is just the regular definite article. (In my opinion)

    (c) By that much higher we go, by that much colder the weather becomes.

    Swan, Michael. Practical English Usage.
    Pence R.W. and Emery D.W. A Grammar of Present-Day English.
    House, Homer C. and Harman, Susan Emolyn. Descriptive English Grammar.

Similar Threads

  1. Defining "Street," "Road," "Avenue," "Boulevard"
    By ahumphreys in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 31-Dec-2010, 08:14
  2. [Vocabulary] Difference between "health" and "wellness", "Diagnosis" and "Analysis"
    By tobysky in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 28-Dec-2010, 23:43
  3. [Vocabulary] How do you pronounce "Cotton", "Button", "Britain", "Manhattan"...
    By Williamyh in forum Pronunciation and Phonetics
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 24-Dec-2009, 09:36
  4. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-Sep-2008, 08:27
  5. confusing words "expressed" or "express" and "named" or"names"
    By Dawood Usmani in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 26-Oct-2007, 19:33

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •