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    #1

    without hope

    Are these sentences correct:

    1-Without hope, these events would have crushed him.
    2-Without your help, my enemies would have defeated me.

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    Re: without hope

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Are these sentences correct?

    1-Without hope, these events would have crushed him. No.
    2-Without your help, my enemies would have defeated me. Yes.
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    Re: without hope

    Thanks Rover.

    I do not see why one is correct and the other one incorrect.

    1-Without hope, these events would have crushed him.
    Here "he" has hope and the events don't crush "him"


    2-Without your help, my enemies would have defeated me.
    Here, I had your help and my enemies were unable to defeat me.

    The structure seems the same to me in both cases.

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    Re: without hope

    I can't explain the grammar, but I tried reversing the sentences.

    'These events would have crushed him without hope' doesn't make much sense.

    'My enemies would have defeated me without your help' is just fine.

    I would accept

    'Without hope, he would have been crushed by these events.'

    Rover

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    Re: without hope

    @ Rover

    Although we hear Without your help, my enemies would have defeated me, it seems to me as unacceptable as the other sentence. Although it's a weird thing to say, it could be interpreted as If my enemies had not had your help, they would have defeated me (but they had your help so they didn't defeat me.)

    In my opinion, the sentence is more acceptable as: Without your help, I would have been defeated by my enemies.

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