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    Talking fallen soul meaning please !

    Can you please tell me the meaning of falling soul in this context :

    (( the story is about a boy who rises as a henchman in a ruthless tycoon's palace, only to crave salvation for his
    fallen soul))

    is it like falling angel


    meaning : exiled . I am wondring .


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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by nora2000 View Post
    Can you please tell me the meaning of falling soul in this context :

    (( the story is about a boy who rises as a henchman in a ruthless tycoon's palace, only to crave salvation for his
    fallen soul))

    is it like falling angel


    meaning : exiled . I am wondring .


    I always appreciate your great help .
    What do you understand by the word "soul" here?

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    The man is worried about his eternal soul. I'll assume he's Christian, though a similar concept probably exists in Islam.
    To understand this, one has to assume, for argument, that souls survive death, and that the destination of one's soul (Heaven or Hell, or a few other places in some denominations) depends on how one lives one's life. "Salvation" is a Christian concept. Man is born with "original sin" and his soul is only saved by his belief in Christ (and some would say, by actions consistent with such belief).
    This man has done things that he believes has alienated him from God. Such a person is said to have "fallen" from God's grace - hence "fallen soul". It's not only angels that can fall from grace.

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    I would add that it is also sometimes just used to refer to someone who has done stuff that he or she thinks is ethically/morally questionable and/or wrong. The focus less so(or not at all) on the religious origins/use of the word, more on the guilt or awareness of the person in question.

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    What do you understand by the word "soul" here?

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    The man is worried about his eternal soul. I'll assume he's Christian, though a similar concept probably exists in Islam.
    To understand this, one has to assume, for argument, that souls survive death, and that the destination of one's soul (Heaven or Hell, or a few other places in some denominations) depends on how one lives one's life. "Salvation" is a Christian concept. Man is born with "original sin" and his soul is only saved by his belief in Christ (and some would say, by actions consistent with such belief).
    This man has done things that he believes has alienated him from God. Such a person is said to have "fallen" from God's grace - hence "fallen soul". It's not only angels that can fall from grace.
    so it means alienated soul - person
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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by SanMar View Post
    I would add that it is also sometimes just used to refer to someone who has done stuff that he or she thinks is ethically/morally questionable and/or wrong. The focus less so(or not at all) on the religious origins/use of the word, more on the guilt or awareness of the person in question.

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    so the exact meaning of fallen here is = ?

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by nora2000 View Post
    so the exact meaning of fallen here is = ?
    Fallen here would mean slipped, lost direction, bad, not of the expected level. His soul should be at a high moral level but it has fallen down below where he would like it to be. He realises that by becoming a henchman his soul has slipped in quality.

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    Re: fallen soul meaning please !

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Fallen here would mean slipped, lost direction, bad, not of the expected level. His soul should be at a high moral level but it has fallen down below where he would like it to be. He realises that by becoming a henchman his soul has slipped in quality.
    This explains another word that Nora queried in her initial post. By slipping from its high moral position the soul is exiled from some good place (in the Christian view, Heaven).

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    PS Of course, strictly, to be exiled from somewhere you have to be there in the first place, which causes all sorts of theological problems
    Last edited by BobK; 11-Jul-2011 at 11:40. Reason: PS added

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