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    What is the meaning of the phrase:

    She wants you for dead.
    A) She wants you dead
    B) She wants you to the dead (destinated to the dead)

    In all these cases, the word "for" has the same meaning as "to be" or "as"??
    She wants you for dead.
    I want you for my wife.
    We want you for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENOIRONMAIDEN View Post
    What is the meaning of the phrase:

    She wants you for dead.
    A) She wants you dead
    B) She wants you to the dead (destinated to the dead)

    In all these cases, the word "for" has the same meaning as "to be" or "as"??
    She wants you for dead.
    I want you for my wife.
    We want you for president.
    With this construct, you have to work out which of the two meanings is intended from the context.
    In the first one, it can't mean "She wants you for the benefit of dead people" or it would have to read, "She wants you for the dead." And even then, it's a silly concept.

    The second one is the basis for a well-known joke:
    Man to Woman [Getting down on bended knee] "I want you for my wife!"
    Woman to Man: "What would your wife want with me?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENOIRONMAIDEN View Post
    What is the meaning of the phrase:

    She wants you for dead.
    A) She wants you dead
    B) She wants you to the dead (destinated to the dead)

    In all these cases, the word "for" has the same meaning as "to be" or "as"??
    She wants you for dead.
    I want you for my wife.
    We want you for president.
    It's "She wants you dead" if you mean that she wishes you were dead.

    With your other two examples, "...want you for..." is followed by a noun (wife and president). "Dead" is an adjective so putting "for" before it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    It's "She wants you dead" if you mean that she wishes you were dead.

    With your other two examples, "...want you for..." is followed by a noun (wife and president). "Dead" is an adjective so putting "for" before it doesn't work.
    Ok, thanks!

    I saw it in a song of Iron Maiden: "IRON MAIDEN WANTS YOU FOR DEAD"

    So, that means the same as:

    "Iron Maiden wants you dead" ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRENOIRONMAIDEN View Post
    Ok, thanks!

    I saw it in a song of Iron Maiden: "IRON MAIDEN WANTS YOU FOR DEAD"

    So, that means the same as:

    "Iron Maiden wants you dead" ???
    I guess so but, as has been said on here very many times, song lyrics aren't the best place to find grammatically correct English. Words are changed and moved around to fit the rhythm and the pattern of the music.

    Best example of how not to learn English from song lyrics - I Can't Get No Satisfaction (Rolling Stones).

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