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    the position of "such as"

    I have read some of the usages of "such as" but still have one question about this phrase.

    Instrumental music, such as classical and jazz, helps Jessica draw better.
    In this case, "such as" comes right after the noun (instrumental music) that it describes.
    The problem is that .........can "such as" be used not right after the noun that it gives examples?

    that is, can that sentence be put like these:

    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better, such as classical and jazz.
    or
    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better such as classical and jazz.

    Another example:

    Much of the Wall Street jargon one reads in the financial pages is derived from the game of poker such as "blue ship" stocks.

    Is this sentence right? Is the "such as" phrase right in this sentence.

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    Re: the position of "such as"

    Quote Originally Posted by EricWu View Post
    I have read some of the usages of "such as" but still have one question about this phrase.

    Instrumental music, such as classical and jazz, helps Jessica draw better.
    In this case, "such as" comes right after the noun (instrumental music) that it describes.
    The problem is that .........can "such as" be used not right after the noun that it gives examples?

    that is, can that sentence be put like these:

    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better, such as classical and jazz.
    or
    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better such as classical and jazz.

    No, both of those sound as if "classical and jazz" have something to do with her drawings, not the music.

    Another example:

    Much of the Wall Street jargon one reads in the financial pages is derived from the game of poker such as "blue ship" stocks.

    That sounds OK although you could still argue that it appears that "blue ship" is simply being given as an example of something poker-related instead of an example of the jargon.

    Much better would be "Much of the Wall Street jargon, such as "blue chip stocks", which one reads in the financial pages, is derived from the game of poker.


    Is this sentence right? Is the "such as" phrase right in this sentence.
    See above.

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    Re: the position of "such as"

    Quote Originally Posted by EricWu View Post
    Instrumental music, such as classical and jazz, helps Jessica draw better.
    In this case, "such as" comes right after the noun (instrumental music) that it describes.
    The problem is that .........can "such as" be used not right after the noun that it gives examples? It is usually better directly after what it exemplifies.

    that is, can that sentence be put like theseis:

    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better, such as classical and jazz. No

    Another example:

    Much of the Wall Street jargon one reads in the financial pages is derived from the game of poker such as "blue ship" stocks. You will read things like this, but the 'such as..' would be better after 'jargon' or 'pages'
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    Re: the position of "such as"

    Quote Originally Posted by EricWu View Post
    I have read some of the usages of "such as" but still have one question about this phrase.

    Instrumental music, such as classical and jazz, helps Jessica draw better.
    In this case, "such as" comes right after the noun (instrumental music) that it describes.
    The problem is that .........can "such as" be used not right after the noun that it gives examples?

    that is, can that sentence be put like these:

    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better, such as classical and jazz.
    or
    Instrumental music helps Jessica draw better such as classical and jazz.

    Another example:

    Much of the Wall Street jargon one reads in the financial pages is derived from the game of poker such as "blue ship" stocks.

    Is this sentence right? Is the "such as" phrase right in this sentence.
    It would be better if you place "such as" immediately following the noun(s) you are presenting as examples. If not, there is what I woud describe as a disconnect between the primary noun and the examples, and the greater the 'distance' between the primary noun and the examples, the greater the disconnect.

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    Re: the position of "such as"

    Thanks a lot!! It really helps.
    Last edited by EricWu; 12-Jul-2011 at 16:33.

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