Dutch bargain is an agreement made

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When there's a following past participle describing a word, can you say it always has the omitted (which is) or (which are) , relative pronoun+be verb?
If so, when do you omit it and when do you include it? I think you include it in formal cases and omit it just to shorten the sentence for convenience, but I'm not sure.

ex)....Dutch bargain is an agreement made after drinking alchol....
=>Dutch bargain is an agreement (which is) made after drinking alchol
 

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You may delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when:

1. they are followed by a prepositional phrase.

The books that are on the desk are mine

The books on the desk are mine.

2. the main verb in the relative clause is progressive.

The man who is swimming in the lake is my father.

The man swimming in the lake is my father.

You may NOT delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when :

1. they are followed by an adjective:

The man who is angry is my father

X The man angry is my father

(However, you may switch the positions of the adjective and noun.)

The angry man is my father. (okay)

2. they are followed by a noun:

The man who is a doctor is my father.

X The man a doctor is my father.

The relative pronoun can be deleted if there is a new subject and verb following it:

This is the house that Jack built.

This is the house Jack built.

A. The person whom you see is my father.

B. The person you see is my father.

A. I don't know the reason why she is late.

B. I don't know the reason she is late

(Also : I don't know why she is late. )


Do not delete a relative pronoun that is followed by a verb other than be:

The man who likes lasagna is my father.

X The man likes lasagna is my father.


Never delete the relative pronoun whose:

The man whose car broke down went to the station.

X The man car broke down went to the station.

Regards.;-)

PS: Check the spelling of "alcohol".
 

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You may delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when:

1. they are followed by a prepositional phrase.

The books that are on the desk are mine

The books on the desk are mine.

2. the main verb in the relative clause is progressive.

The man who is swimming in the lake is my father.

The man swimming in the lake is my father.

You may NOT delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when :

1. they are followed by an adjective:

The man who is angry is my father

X The man angry is my father

(However, you may switch the positions of the adjective and noun.)

The angry man is my father. (okay)

2. they are followed by a noun:

The man who is a doctor is my father.

X The man a doctor is my father.

The relative pronoun can be deleted if there is a new subject and verb following it:

This is the house that Jack built.

This is the house Jack built.

A. The person whom you see is my father.

B. The person you see is my father.

A. I don't know the reason why she is late.

B. I don't know the reason she is late

(Also : I don't know why she is late. )


Do not delete a relative pronoun that is followed by a verb other than be:

The man who likes lasagna is my father.

X The man likes lasagna is my father.


Never delete the relative pronoun whose:

The man whose car broke down went to the station.

X The man car broke down went to the station.

Regards.;-)

PS: Check the spelling of "alcohol".


Thank you, but there're too many cases, can't you reduce them?
 

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Thank you, but there're too many cases, can't you reduce them?

I think you can also add "past participle" to omissible cases.
"This is a car (which was) made in Korea". Right?

You may delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when:

1. they are followed by a prepositional phrase.

The books that are on the desk are mine

The books on the desk are mine.

2. the main verb in the relative clause is progressive.

The man who is swimming in the lake is my father.

The man swimming in the lake is my father.

You may NOT delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when :

1. they are followed by an adjective:

The man who is angry is my father

X The man angry is my father

(However, you may switch the positions of the adjective and noun.)

The angry man is my father. (okay)

2. they are followed by a noun:

The man who is a doctor is my father.

X The man a doctor is my father.
 

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I think you can also add "past participle" to omissible cases.
"This is a car (which was) made in Korea". Right?


You may NOT delete the relative pronoun and the be verb when :

1. they are followed by an adjective:

The man who is angry is my father

X The man angry is my father
=> What about this one? "The man (so anxious to meet) her finally met her. I think this is possible


2. they are followed by a noun:

The man who is a doctor is my father.

X The man a doctor is my father.
=> What about this one? "The guy, chairman of CC group, is coming to us right now"
I think this is possible.
I'm sorry your rules are kind of confusing.
 
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