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    Question Mixed Tenses Analysis

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    To boost donation, however, some centers have accepted donors who have a health condition, such as high blood pressure, that would have ruled them out a few years ago.
    How do the verb tense of the main "event" (the centers accepting donors) and the verb tense of human participant "attributes" (the donors having health conditions) relate? I take "Some centers have accepted donors" to mean that the centers in the past accepted such donors and in the relevant present accepts such donors. Should I take "donors have a health condition" to mean that donors accepted in the past had health conditions at the moment of acceptance, and that donors that are accepted in the relevant present have health conditions now?

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    Re: Mixed Tenses Analysis

    You're trying to read too much into this.

    Change 'who have' to 'with' and see if it makes sense to you now.

    Rover

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    Re: Mixed Tenses Analysis

    To boost donation, however, some centers have accepted donors who have a health condition, such as high blood pressure, that would have ruled them out a few years ago.
    Would it have difference meanings if "have a health condition" is replaced by "had a health condition"?

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    Re: Mixed Tenses Analysis

    It could suggest that they no longer have that health condition.

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    Re: Mixed Tenses Analysis

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    It could suggest that they no longer have that health condition.
    That could also suggest that they no longer had the condition when they were accepted - which is against the meaning of the original.

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    Re: Mixed Tenses Analysis

    To boost donation, however, some centers have accepted donors who have a health condition, such as high blood pressure, that would have ruled them out a few years ago.
    If "have a health condition" becomes "have had a health condition", would native readers sense some extra meanings in the example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyA View Post
    If "have a health condition" becomes "have had a health condition", would native readers sense some extra meanings in the example?
    The meaning would be different, not extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    The meaning would be different, not extra.
    How different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyA View Post
    How different?
    Guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Guess.
    A present perfect situation shadowed by another present perfect situation could mean the same as past perfect situation?

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