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hello ,
could you answer this for me ?

they went to the party except (me - I)

someone said "use I because it`s a subject here"

but i think me is better


sorry for any language mistake i think the question is obvious :) .
 

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I presume the correct way of putting it would be: "They went to the party without me".
Or "Everyone except me went to the party", "Everyone except for me went to the party". Since we can use "except for" to mean "except" in such particular cases, I believe we must say "me" and not "I".
 

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hello ,
could you answer this for me? We don't use a space before a punctuation mark.

they went to the party except (me - I).

someone said "use 'I' because it`s a subject here", but i think 'me' is better.


sorry for any language mistake. i think the question is obvious. :) .
Bennevis has answered your question. Please note his usage of 'everyone' and 'they'.

Please try to use capital letters where appropriate - I have underlined letters that should be capitalised. I have also added a few punctuation marks.
 

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Bennevis has answered your question. Please note his usage of 'everyone' and 'they'.

Please try to use capital letters where appropriate - I have underlined letters that should be capitalised. I have also added a few punctuation marks.



thank u for the punctuation i don`t need it i only want the answer not the puncituation !

i know that me is good but the teacher said it is I because I here i subject like saying

except I


and we mean

i didn`t go

is it right or what

because it is not for fun it might came in the exam and it is not in the book but it based on it

sorry for the bad english and please don`t talk about the puncituation because English is not only puncituation.
 

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I presume the correct way of putting it would be: "They went to the party without me".
Or "Everyone except me went to the party", "Everyone except for me went to the party". Since we can use "except for" to mean "except" in such particular cases, I believe we must say "me" and not "I".


sorry the question is

everyone went to the part except ( I -me)
 

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I presume the correct way of putting it would be: "They went to the party without me".
Or "Everyone except me went to the party", "Everyone except for me went to the party". Since we can use "except for" to mean "except" in such particular cases, I believe we must say "me" and not "I".


sorry the question is

everyone went to the part except ( I -me)
 

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Everyone went to the party except me.
 

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sorry for the bad english and please don`t talk about the puncituation because English is not only puncituation.

Dear Ricolding,

I'm afraid punctuation is important in English, as well as in other languages that use the Latin alphabet. I helps to understand the text better. Therefore, it's considerate towards the reader to use proper punctuation. Am I right in assuming you want to be understood and you're not above being considerate? :)
 

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sorry the question is

everyone went to the part except ( I -me)


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(1) Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon have given us learners excellent answers.

(2) I think that I may (repeat: may) understand your problem.

(3) Today in the year 2011, the word "except" is considered a preposition. As

you already know from your studies, after a preposition, you always use the

object form (such as me, him, her, us, them):

Everybody went except me.
She did it for me.
They went with me.

(4) Congratulations! In your first post, you said that you felt the correct answer was

"me." You were correct!

(5) BUT many, many years ago, it was good English to use "I." Many years ago,

some people felt that "except" was a conjunction. So many years ago, you could

say "Everyone went except I (did not go).

Maybe your friends were reading an old grammar book. That is why they told you to

use "I."

(a) Here is an example from the great grammarian George O. Curme:

Everyone except me seems to dislike him. / Everyone except I seems to dislike him.

The great professor's book was published in 1931. He said that "me" was then

"more common."

(6) I think that we learners should follow Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon's advice

and use "me" -- just as you said in your first post.
 

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Thank you for the punctuation. I don`t need it. I only want the answer not the punctuation!

I know that "me" is good but the teacher said it is "I" because "I" here is the subject like saying

"except I" when we mean "I didn`t go"

Is it right or [STRIKE]what [/STRIKE] not?

[STRIKE]because[/STRIKE] It is not for fun - it might [STRIKE]came[/STRIKE] appear in the exam and it is not in the book but it is based on it.

Sorry for the bad English and please don`t talk about the punctuation because English is not only punctuation.

English is not only punctuation, that's true, but punctuation is extremely important. With written English it is AS important as the actual words you use. It can mean the difference between someone understanding you and not understanding you. If you use incorrect or no punctuation, it's possible that someone will think you mean something completely different from your actual intended meaning.

If you are going to be sitting an exam (as you suggested in your post) and you write in your exam in the same way as you have written your post here, you will not get good marks.

You were right when you said "It's not for fun". It's not. It's very serious indeed - and so is punctuation.

Also, on this forum, if every one of your posts needs to be corrected as much as this one did (see all my capitalisation and punctuation corrections), you will find that very few teachers will answer your questions.

We like to see that you are making as much effort as possible. If you cannot or will not make the effort with punctuation, then we are not going to make much effort helping you.

Please note the spelling of punctuation.
 

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(1) Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon have given us learners excellent answers.

(2) I think that I may (repeat: may) understand your problem.

(3) Today in the year 2011, the word "except" is considered a preposition. As

you already know from your studies, after a preposition, you always use the

object form (such as me, him, her, us, them):

Everybody went except me.
She did it for me.
They went with me.

(4) Congratulations! In your first post, you said that you felt the correct answer was

"me." You were correct!

(5) BUT many, many years ago, it was good English to use "I." Many years ago,

some people felt that "except" was a conjunction. So many years ago, you could

say "Everyone went except I (did not go).

Maybe your friends were reading an old grammar book. That is why they told you to

use "I."

(a) Here is an example from the great grammarian George O. Curme:

Everyone except me seems to dislike him. / Everyone except I seems to dislike him.

The great professor's book was published in 1931. He said that "me" was then

"more common."

(6) I think that we learners should follow Teachers Bennevis and Fivejedjon's advice

and use "me" -- just as you said in your first post.



You are a fantastic teacher

but i`m afraid to tell you that our English in school is old too from oxford in the year 2001 and the exam still from the same book so what should i do

i will discuss this with my teacher thank you
and my puncituation is bad because the internet language like u and not you
sorry i will study it again thank you all
 

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You are a fantastic teacher

but i`m afraid to tell you that our English in school is old too from oxford in the year 2001 and the exam still from the same book so what should i do

i will discuss this with my teacher thank you
and my puncituation is bad because the internet language like u and not you
sorry i will study it again thank you all

I cannot speak for the other teachers but I will not be answering any more of your queries until you start to capitalise and punctuate. We do not use "internet language" or "textspeak" here. We use correct English. That is why this forum exists.
 

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I cannot speak for the other teachers but I will not be answering any more of your queries until you start to capitalise and punctuate. We do not use "internet language" or "textspeak" here. We use correct English. That is why this forum exists.
You are speaking for me. Thank you.
 

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i will discuss this with my teacher thank you


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(1) Thank you for your kind note.

(2) Yes, I agree that you should discuss this with your teacher. Good

teachers are always happy to know whether they are mistaken about

something.

(3) Of course, I know that you will be very respectful of your teacher when

you speak with him/her. You might want to print out this thread and give

your teacher a copy. Above all, do not tell your teacher that he/she is

"wrong" if he/she thinks the correct answer is "I." Just tell your teacher that

you want to earn good marks in his/her class and that you were advised by

an outstanding English helpline on the Web that the correct answer is "me."

(Then respectfully give a copy of this thread.)

(4) Best of luck to you. Whenever you have other questions about English

grammar, many teachers and non-teachers here will be happy to help you.

P.S. Of course, do not give your teacher a copy of this post.:)
 

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In egypt the exam is general i mean every student will have a one exam and not my teacher who will test me

Ok i will till him that thank you
 

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Do you think it would be a good idea to use 'else' in the sentence? "Everyone else except me went to the party". By doing so we would be removing a logical conflict between 'everyone' and 'except me'.
 

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In egypt the exam is general i mean every student will have a one exam and not my teacher who will test me

Ok i will till him that thank you


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(1) Yes, that is a problem. If all students in the country take the same test, and the

test is prepared by some teachers who think that "I" is the correct answer, then

you will receive lower marks on the test if you choose the correct answer of

"me."

(2) Do ask your teacher for advice on what to do.

(3) I have heard that this happens in other countries, too. The national test on

English grammar may be prepared by excellent teachers who may not completely

understand English grammar. As a result, they may require wrong answers. That is

very unfair to students.

(4) Of course, maybe the national test in your country does accept "me" as the

correct answer. Hopefully, your teacher can give you -- and the other students ---

some advice if the test has an "except" question.

(5) After you take the test, let us know if there was an "except" question.
 

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(1) Yes, that is a problem. If all students in the country take the same test, and the

test is prepared by some teachers who think that "I" is the correct answer, then

you will receive lower marks on the test if you choose the correct answer of

"me."

(2) Do ask your teacher for advice on what to do.

(3) I have heard that this happens in other countries, too. The national test on

English grammar may be prepared by excellent teachers who may not completely

understand English grammar. As a result, they may require wrong answers. That is

very unfair to students.

(4) Of course, maybe the national test in your country does accept "me" as the

correct answer. Hopefully, your teacher can give you -- and the other students ---

some advice if the test has an "except" question.

(5) After you take the test, let us know if there was an "except" question.


It is not for "except" question the problem is that who make the exam i a very old teacher so he may answer it (I) or any other question and it is a one test not many tests
only one test and u have to get high marks to join the college you want
 

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It is not for "except" question the problem is that who make the exam i a very old teacher so he may answer it (I) or any other question and it is a one test not many tests
only one test and u have to get high marks to join the college you want


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(1) Yes, I understand.

(2) Here in the United States, students have many opportunities to enter college.

Even students with poor marks can always find a college that will accept them.

(3) I have read that it is different in many other countries. If a student does not

do well on a national test, s/he loses any chance of college.

(4) I understand the pressure you are under.

(5) I wish you great success on the national test.
 
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