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  1. niggo
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    convert to indirect

    hi

    Please tell me how to convert this into indirect

    1- I said to my brother, "Try to be punctual"

    2- John said to her brother "will you help me solve this sum"


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    #2

    Re: convert to indirect

    Good questions. Please allow me to add two more to yours:-
    3. They asked me, "What to do?"
    4. He asked me, "What your name?"

    Thanks.


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    #3

    Re: convert to indirect

    3. I was asked what to do.
    4.I was asked what my name was

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    Re: convert to indirect

    [1] I told my brother (that) he should try to be punctual.
    [2] John asked her brother if he (her brother) would help him (John) solve the sum.

    [3] They asked me, "What to do?"
    They asked me what to do / what they should do.

    [4] He asked me, "What's your name?"
    He asked me what my name was / He asked me my name.


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    Re: convert to indirect

    3. They asked me, "What to do?"
    4. He asked me, "What your name?"
    FYI,
    3. They asked me, "What to do?" = They asked me what to do.
    3a. They asked me, "What should we do? = They asked me what they should do.

    4. He asked me, "What your name?" = He asked me what your name.(??)
    4a. He asked me, "What is your name? = He asked me my name or He asked me what my name is/was

    The questions asked in 3 & 4 are grammatically incorrect because there is no verb in both of them!
    Last edited by Temico; 30-Sep-2005 at 11:58.

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    Re: convert to indirect

    Thanks. :) By the way, the following symbols are used to represent ungrammaticality and semantically awkward constructs:

    * (ungrammatical)
    ? (semantically awkward)

    Quote Originally Posted by Temico
    Good questions. Please allow me to add two more to yours:-
    3. They asked me, "What to do?"
    4. He asked me, "What your name?"


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    Re: convert to indirect

    * (ungrammatical)
    ? (semantically awkward)
    BTW, would call the following quote (from the film "Tarzan"), "ungrammatical" or "semantically awkward"?

    " I Tarzan, you Jane!"

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    Re: convert to indirect

    Quote Originally Posted by Temico
    BTW, would call the following quote (from the film "Tarzan"), "ungrammatical" or "semantically awkward"? "I Tarzan, you Jane!"
    It's neither. This would be a good time to review the Forum rules, Temico. The topic of this thread is indirect speech.


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    Re: convert to indirect

    The topic of this thread is indirect speech.
    You seem to have missed my point. Perhaps I assumed too much and wasn't clear enough in my asking you about the "Tarzan quote". Allow me to clarify and ask again, if I changed "Tarzan said, 'I Tarzan, you Jane.' to indirect speech(which is the topic of this thread), it will become, "Tarzan said that he Tarzan and she/you Jane." Now, please tell me what should I put before this "indirect speech", an (*) or a (?) ??

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    Re: convert to indirect

    Quote Originally Posted by Temico
    "Tarzan said, '[me] Tarzan, you Jane.'
    It's Tarzan's idiolect. It's truncated, telegraphic, and agrammatical:

    EX: "Me [called] Tarzan, you [called] Jane" (agrammatical)

    I don't know if there's a symbol for that. Here's how I would put it into indirect speech.

    EX: Tarzan said (that) he's called Tarzan and (that) she's called Jane.

    All the best, and see you in the Forum.

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