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    He counts/He is counted

    7) If something counts or is counted as a particular thing, it is regarded as being that thing, especially in particular circumstances or under particular rules.
    Collins Cobuild Advanced Learnerís English Dictionary.

    A small example:
    181.
    He soon notices that what bears him up or throws him down is not that which he is but that which he counts as being: here is the origin of vanity.

    (Human, All Too Human; The Wanderer and His Shadow; translated by R.J. Hollingdale)

    "which he counts as being" - means (as far as I am concerned) "what others think him to be"/"what others think he is".

    Does it mean that these two following sentences convey just the same meaning (and what is more important - excite the same 'feeling' - so we can't distinguish between the passive and the active meaning):

    He counts as a hero.
    He is counted as a hero.


    Thanks.

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    Re: He counts/He is counted

    Quote Originally Posted by suprunp View Post
    Does it mean that these two following sentences convey just the same meaning (and what is more important - excite the same 'feeling' - so we can't distinguish between the passive and the active meaning):

    He counts as a hero.
    He is counted as a hero.
    They can convey the same meaning. My feeling is that I can say the first if I consider him a hero, regardless of whether others do or not; the second implies that he is considered a hero by many people.
    Last edited by 5jj; 25-Aug-2011 at 14:16. Reason: formatting problem

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